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Plumbers prosper, but 'the odds are against workers without degrees'

  • Writer: Joanne Jacobs
    Joanne Jacobs
  • Jun 26
  • 2 min read

Some non-college pathways pay off, writes Matt Barnum on Chalkbeat. Plumbers, machinists, HVAC installers, and carpenters, for example, earn more than the national median. But, overall, "the odds are stacked against workers without degrees."


Michigan is struggling to persuade working men to consider college, reports Hechinger's Rachel Fradette.


The state has a shortage of skilled workers, and a relatively low percentage of adults with education or training beyond high school, she writes. Michigan Reconnect, which covers community college tuition for people 25 and older, has proven popular with women, but not with men. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer wants more focus on getting men into certificate and college programs. It's been slow going.


Young males are more likely to focus on working, and less confident of their academic skills.


Fradette talked to Tyler Kniss, who dropped out of high school and spent time in prison. Then he became a father, found a manufacturing job to support his family and earned a GED.


Kniss, now 33 and a manufacturing operations manager, has a "wealth of experience" backed by certifications, but thinks he needs a degree to advance. He’s enrolled in a degree program for business administration at a local college while working full-time, "and hopes to transfer to the University of Michigan for a bachelor’s degree," she reports. The Michigan Reconnect scholarship covers tuition for his two-year degree, and his employer’s education policy would cover the bachelor’s.


Colorado's youth apprenticeship program has been a disappointment. writes Chalkbeat's Jason Gonzales. Only 1,200 students have taken part in CareerWise programs in the first decade.


He profiles a high school senior who's paid more than $18 an hour to tutor fifth-graders and now wants to be a teacher. His original plan was to be a HVAC technician. He'd have earned more as an entry-level tech than a teacher, and gotten into the workforce two or three years years sooner, but median pay for teachers is slightly higher than the median for HVAC techs in Colorado.

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superdestroyer
Jun 26

One does not get a good paying job in the trades right out of high school. In looking at plumbers, one needs 8,000 hours of being an apprentice to take the test to be a journey plumber


From Google AI: A plumbing apprenticeship typically lasts 4 to 5 years (or roughly 8,000 hours of on-the-job training). This timeframe qualifies you to take the exam to become a journeyman plumber, which allows you to work independently.


Also from Google AI: The average pay for an apprentice plumber in California is approximately $22.24 per hour, or about $41,313 to $59,576 annually. Entry-level apprentices typically start around $18 to $20 per hour, with wages increasing based on experience, location, and the specific apprenticeshi…


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JK Brown
Jun 26
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Funny bit of math. $18-$20/hr as an apprentice is better than the thousands of dollars that must be borrowed to attend classes, most of which do not improve your earning ability, at a university.


It might be different if a college graduate was qualified for a good job when they graduate, but they are not. Theoretically, they might learn a job faster than someone who didn't go to college, but modern reality is that hasn't been true since the 1980s.


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JKBrown
Jun 26

Once adjusted for the loss of earning during college years (now that a kid right out of high school can get a decent job in the trades) coupled with the crippling life-long student loan debt, the non-college is a better option over a lifetime. Exceptions being those who hit it big like Elon Musk or go to an Ivy where the finance firms recruit from.


Couple that with the fact that men are not being hired by corporations. 94% of jobs were filled by women in the last few years as corporations hire women over men and a lot of job growth has been in traditional female dominated fields.


Except for the hard science and engineering, the college degree is…


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