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NY regent: Testing students is like asking a fish to climb a tree

Writer: Joanne Jacobs
Joanne Jacobs
Sep 16
2 min read


New York students will be able to graduate without passing tests in reading, math, science or social studies, the state's Board of Regents voted on Monday. Passing the Regents exams will be optional, reports Matthew Haag in the New York Times. Each district will decide who deserves a diploma. Expect graduation rates to hit 100 percent.


Regents denied they were "dumbing down" education, writes Thomas Stevenson in The Post Millennial. Students will have different ways to "showcase their strengths, said Regent Felicia Thomas-Williams, citing a cartoon that implies it's not fair to give the same exam to different animals. "You don't assess a fish on climbing a tree because fish can't climb trees," she said.


The cartoon often is accompanied by a quote falsely attributed to Albert Einstein: "Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." Einstein never said it. He didn't think genius was universal. And he expressed no opinion on the self-esteem of fish.


Hispanic and black students have much lower scores on Regents exams than Asians and whites, so Thomas-Williams' analogy would make non-Asian minorities the fish, biologically incapable of academic achievement. Presumably Asians are monkeys, biologically fit for academic climbing. Perhaps New York's white students are cats, capable of climbing if not declawed.


Or, perhaps, this is a really stupid analogy. All New York students are human beings, members of the same species. If any are incapable of learning, why are they required to attend school?


"Sadly, this is normal," tweets John McWhorter, a Columbia linguistics professor. Thomas-Williams "thinks her people are smart in 'alternate ways' and that being good at tests (close thinking and linear reasoning) is 'white'."


That thinking implies "Black people are less intelligent than others and should settle for excellence in sports and entertainment but not in academia," he wrote in a New York Times column. It's racist.


While Regents exams are optional, all students -- fish and monkeys -- will be required show they meet the fuzzy Portrait of a Graduate goals, such as "academically prepared, creative innovator, critical thinker, effective communicator, global citizen, and reflective and future focused."


Students are supposed to “establish their readiness” through “performances, portfolios, assessments, [and] presentations,” and possibly “real-world projects” and “work-based learning," writes Fordham's Meredith Coffey, who predicts "disaster." Districts don't know how to measure these attributes.


Massachusetts also dumped its well-respected state exams and adopted a portrait with "hokey competencies" such as “self-aware navigators, Coffey writes. But Massachusetts won't be awarding diplomas for shoebox dioramas and baking-soda volcanoes. The state will require coursework and end-of-course exams to qualify for a diploma. The exams will be written and scored by the state, not by classroom teachers.

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John
Sep 16

"You don't assess a fish on climbing a tree because fish can't climb trees,"


How do they know fish can't climb trees unless they've applied an assessment?


Then they claim that fish can demonstrate their ability to climb trees by swimming.

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Joanne Jacobs
Joanne Jacobs
Sep 17
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There is form of perch that can climb trees. But not very well.

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Malcolm Kirkpatrick
Sep 16
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US DOE NCES "2024 Public Elementary and Secondary Education Finance Data"


New York school districts ranked by revenue per pupil. Top ten.

Rank ... District ... Enrollment ... Revenue per pupil

1 Kiryas Joel Union Free SD 122 … $575,180

2 Wainscott Common SD 24 … $219,958

3 Fire Island Union Free SD 40 … $143,300

4 New Suffolk Common SD 8 … $137,375

5 Sagaponack Common SD 15 … $128,667

6 Remsenburg-Speonk Union Free SD 133 … $119,940

7 Newcomb Central SD 50 … $116,000

8 Quogue Union Free SD 83 … $113,880

9 Bridgehampton U F SD 196 … $109,378

10 North Greenbush Common SD 31 … $97,258

For anyone curious ...

New York City SD 845,509 $46,477


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Momof4
Sep 21
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I looked up several of the schools and, as I expected they were either specialized spec ed schools, which usually means kids with serious disabilities that cannot be reasonably handled in regular schools, or very small schools; some only k-4 or k-6. Comparing such schools to NYC is apples and potatoes.

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Guest
Sep 16
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I will enthusiastically concede the "multiple intelligence" argument if those who advance it concede that that argument undermines the case for tax-subsidized education.

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Guest
Sep 16

The Horror! The Horror! A high school exam that tests high school students for high-school-level curricular material like algebra and geometry! Did those fiends making the Regents Exams even expect high school graduates to recognize that "would be include" is ungrammatical?


The whole idea that if 100% of any group can't do something, we must therefore not do it at all is patent nonsense. The logical conclusion of your position is that we should not bother with education at all.

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Malcolm Kirkpatrick
Sep 16
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(guest): " The logical conclusion of your position is that we should not bother with education at all."

I would endorse this conclusion if "we" means "the government". In abstract, the education industry is a highly unlikely candidate for necessarily rule-bound, bureaucratic State (i.e., government, generally) operation.

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Momof4
Sep 16

When my NY state cousins took the Regents, back in the 60s, only their college-prep classmates took the tests. Their voc ed and gen-Ed classmates did not. For the (real) college-prep kids (actually prepared for college work - in the days of freshman weeder courses etc), algebra,geometry and sciences should be expected.

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