AFT: College isn’t for ‘cranking out’ workers

Corporate interests are trying to turn community colleges into “job training factories,” charges the American Federation of Teachers, which represents California community college instructors.

Andy Grove, who helped found Intel, and Bernie Marcus, who founded Home Depot, are encouraging young people to pursue vocational training, but it’s hard to fight the college-for-all mentality, Grove complains.

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  1. Walter E Wallis says:

    So the job of colleges is to produce unemployables with high expectations?
    Do you want fries with that?

    • Stacy in NJ says:

      They want “free” healthcare, tution debt forgiveness, more “economic equality”, and, eventually, tenure.

      In other words, they want free stuff because they deserve it, and they want you to pay for it. Oh, and, yes, they want some fries with that, but they don’t want to be the ones to actually grow, cut, freeze, deep fry, or serve the actual fries.

  2. Richard Aubrey says:

    Walter. Burgerflippers and the unemployed are fodder for the dem party. Can never have too many of them.
    The AFT supports which party now? Can’t remember.
    It could be the AFT is promoting the production of independently wealthy, leisured philosophers and philanthropists.
    I guess you could flip a coin.

  3. Given that HR departments some years ago decided that persons with ‘college degrees and no real experience’ were more valuable than someone with 4-10 years of actual work experience, does this surprise anyone?

    The simple fact is that we have drilled into the heads of people that college degree equals superior worker, when in many cases, most jobs in the marketplace today don”t even require a college degree, and this is where the loss of vocational education in our high schools has cost this country quite a bit.

    When student loan debt is higher than credit card debt, I know this nation is in a a world of hurt.

  4. There’s more to life than being a good worker.

  5. Richard Aubrey says:

    That’s particularly true when you can’t eat. Eating is good, especially if you can’t afford to. That’s when it becomes kind of an obsession.
    Good point.

  6. Hmmm… Well, it was my understanding that the two main functions of a community college were to confer eligible students with associate’s degrees and to transfer to a 4 year university. And, completing one’s general education at a community college is generally a hell of a lot cheaper than at a university. For example, it’s $36 per unit at Saddleback CC ( as opposed to when I went to UC Berkeley in 2009, I was paying $976 a unit. And, I hear that the cost of tuition is still rising. Because one of the functions of a community college is to provide the needed education to transfer to a 4 year university, a lot of students don’t need to endure 2 more years of that financial pain. That’s why community college shouldn’t be strictly for vocational training.

    Should businesses and corporations be completely excluded from making a partnership with a community college pertaining to vocational training? I don’t think so. I imagine that those students who do desire to go to community college just for vocational training would benefit from those partnerships (e.g. internships/field experience). However, off the top of my head, I’m not sure what the limitations should be on their level of involvement.