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	<title>Comments on: Standards at the core</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2010/03/standards-at-the-core/#comment-56225</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just that the proposed standards &quot;ask too much of young children,&quot; but that they ask the wrong things.

The writers of these standards clearly have some serious problems.  They would be good candidates for that T-shirt that reads &quot;Do you spell anal retentive with a hyphen?&quot;  Why otherwise would they be requiring kindergartners to be able to count forward _and_ backwards starting at _any_ number from 1 to 100?  What&#039;s the purpose of that, other than to torture children and their teachers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just that the proposed standards &#8220;ask too much of young children,&#8221; but that they ask the wrong things.</p>
<p>The writers of these standards clearly have some serious problems.  They would be good candidates for that T-shirt that reads &#8220;Do you spell anal retentive with a hyphen?&#8221;  Why otherwise would they be requiring kindergartners to be able to count forward _and_ backwards starting at _any_ number from 1 to 100?  What&#8217;s the purpose of that, other than to torture children and their teachers?</p>
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		<title>By: SuperSub</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2010/03/standards-at-the-core/#comment-56224</link>
		<dc:creator>SuperSub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what too-high standards teach students? That no matter what effort they put in, they will fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what too-high standards teach students? That no matter what effort they put in, they will fail.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2010/03/standards-at-the-core/#comment-56223</link>
		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by JoanneLeeJacobs: New blog post: Standards at the core http://www.joannejacobs.com/2010/03/standards-at-the-core/...</description>
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		<title>By: Homeschooling Granny</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2010/03/standards-at-the-core/#comment-56222</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeschooling Granny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the standards and I would like to know whether the math standards includes statistics. The high school I attended (in the 50s) didn&#039;t teach statistics and I didn&#039;t elect it in college but as a young adult I soon realized that I needed statistics in order to read the newspaper. I bought a text and workbook to learn on my own.

If, as Lightly Seasoned says, 9th graders need literal material, I think statistics might be right for them. They could have fun fact checking some of the assertions adults make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the standards and I would like to know whether the math standards includes statistics. The high school I attended (in the 50s) didn&#8217;t teach statistics and I didn&#8217;t elect it in college but as a young adult I soon realized that I needed statistics in order to read the newspaper. I bought a text and workbook to learn on my own.</p>
<p>If, as Lightly Seasoned says, 9th graders need literal material, I think statistics might be right for them. They could have fun fact checking some of the assertions adults make.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightly Seasoned</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2010/03/standards-at-the-core/#comment-56221</link>
		<dc:creator>Lightly Seasoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Jungian archetypes in 3rd grade?  So the lit set/choice approach to fostering reading is finished with a mandated curriculum centered on myth (think bible here, too, please, as that&#039;s where bible as literature is usually tucked into the curriculum) for late elementary.  I&#039;m sure the anthologies are being developed at a feverish pace.

I&#039;ve looked at the high school standards, as well, and I think that they are not developmentally appropriate in places.  Yes, our brightest students are capable of inferential thinking, but the AVERAGE 9th grader is still operating on a literal level (this is why algebra is so hard for them -- symbolism isn&#039;t clicking for them yet).  It is great to reach for this level with all students (and I do -- that&#039;s how I know the rough level at which it is attainable), but of course the new tests will mandate that all get to this level of abstract thinking or I will have failed (not the students).  The little hard research we have in education centers on the brain, and some of these standards don&#039;t reflect what&#039;s been learned there.

Not to worry.  In ten years of teaching I&#039;ve spent enormous numbers of hours realigning things for two different tests (one more year and I&#039;d have done 3).  I figure I have three or four more sets of standards to go before retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Jungian archetypes in 3rd grade?  So the lit set/choice approach to fostering reading is finished with a mandated curriculum centered on myth (think bible here, too, please, as that&#8217;s where bible as literature is usually tucked into the curriculum) for late elementary.  I&#8217;m sure the anthologies are being developed at a feverish pace.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked at the high school standards, as well, and I think that they are not developmentally appropriate in places.  Yes, our brightest students are capable of inferential thinking, but the AVERAGE 9th grader is still operating on a literal level (this is why algebra is so hard for them &#8212; symbolism isn&#8217;t clicking for them yet).  It is great to reach for this level with all students (and I do &#8212; that&#8217;s how I know the rough level at which it is attainable), but of course the new tests will mandate that all get to this level of abstract thinking or I will have failed (not the students).  The little hard research we have in education centers on the brain, and some of these standards don&#8217;t reflect what&#8217;s been learned there.</p>
<p>Not to worry.  In ten years of teaching I&#8217;ve spent enormous numbers of hours realigning things for two different tests (one more year and I&#8217;d have done 3).  I figure I have three or four more sets of standards to go before retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2010/03/standards-at-the-core/#comment-56220</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to hand it to you, Joanne.  It takes balls to make the claim that Checker Finn, Rick Hess and Tom Vander Ark are &quot;skeptics&quot; of national standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to hand it to you, Joanne.  It takes balls to make the claim that Checker Finn, Rick Hess and Tom Vander Ark are &#8220;skeptics&#8221; of national standards.</p>
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