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	<title>Comments on: Where teachers want to be</title>
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		<title>By: palisadesk</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/12/where-teachers-want-to-be/#comment-53216</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw Bart -- it *must* have been awhile since you were in a teachers&#039; lounge: smoking in school buildings has been banned nearly everywhere. Teachers who smoke have to creep outside and hunker down behind the garbage dumpster  or sit in a car in the parking lot;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw Bart &#8212; it *must* have been awhile since you were in a teachers&#8217; lounge: smoking in school buildings has been banned nearly everywhere. Teachers who smoke have to creep outside and hunker down behind the garbage dumpster  or sit in a car in the parking lot;-)</p>
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		<title>By: palisadesk</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/12/where-teachers-want-to-be/#comment-53215</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some teachers prefer high-poverty schools for a variety of reasons, and are better suited to work in them than in &quot;better&quot; schools.  While positive steps such as those mentioned in the article will make difficult schools better work environments (and this is good), it is also true that the skill set and aptitudes teachers need to bring to the job are different in high-poverty schools versus higher-SES schools.

I can speak from personal experience to this, having worked in a spectrum (top private school in DC area, rural school serving very poor seasonal workers&#039; children, working-class city school and several urban, very low income schools). Many colleagues have come and gone, and some -- who were outstanding teachers -- simply didn&#039;t &quot;fit&quot; with the environment in a high-needs school. They were much happier, and more effective,  when they transferred to more middle-class settings. I was the reverse -- satisfactory in a higher-SES school, but really *far* more productive in a challenging environment. I know others who feel the same way -- our worst nightmare is to be bumped to a quiet, high-achieving middle class school;-)  There are probably research studies that quantify the characteristis of teachers who are significantly better adapted to one end of the spectrum versus the other; what does need to be remembered is that teaching excellence is situational, and that moving the &quot;best&quot; teachers to the low-performing schools may not have the desired effect, as those teachers may be much less effective in a very different work environment.

A key to good results in all schools is excellent leadership at the administrative level. Collaboration and teamwork among staff is critical too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some teachers prefer high-poverty schools for a variety of reasons, and are better suited to work in them than in &#8220;better&#8221; schools.  While positive steps such as those mentioned in the article will make difficult schools better work environments (and this is good), it is also true that the skill set and aptitudes teachers need to bring to the job are different in high-poverty schools versus higher-SES schools.</p>
<p>I can speak from personal experience to this, having worked in a spectrum (top private school in DC area, rural school serving very poor seasonal workers&#8217; children, working-class city school and several urban, very low income schools). Many colleagues have come and gone, and some &#8212; who were outstanding teachers &#8212; simply didn&#8217;t &#8220;fit&#8221; with the environment in a high-needs school. They were much happier, and more effective,  when they transferred to more middle-class settings. I was the reverse &#8212; satisfactory in a higher-SES school, but really *far* more productive in a challenging environment. I know others who feel the same way &#8212; our worst nightmare is to be bumped to a quiet, high-achieving middle class school;-)  There are probably research studies that quantify the characteristis of teachers who are significantly better adapted to one end of the spectrum versus the other; what does need to be remembered is that teaching excellence is situational, and that moving the &#8220;best&#8221; teachers to the low-performing schools may not have the desired effect, as those teachers may be much less effective in a very different work environment.</p>
<p>A key to good results in all schools is excellent leadership at the administrative level. Collaboration and teamwork among staff is critical too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/12/where-teachers-want-to-be/#comment-53214</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apropos of nothing... it&#039;s been a while since I worked around public schools, but when I read &quot;refurbished the teachers&#039; lounge&quot; I still think &quot;repainted the tobacco-stained walls and replaced burn-marked furniture.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos of nothing&#8230; it&#8217;s been a while since I worked around public schools, but when I read &#8220;refurbished the teachers&#8217; lounge&#8221; I still think &#8220;repainted the tobacco-stained walls and replaced burn-marked furniture.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to know that somewhere, teachers are sticking to their school because they want to - and are allowed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to know that somewhere, teachers are sticking to their school because they want to &#8211; and are allowed to.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Where teachers want to be « Joanne Jacobs -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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