Comments on: Where diploma dreams go to die http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/11/where-diploma-dreams-go-to-die/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:51:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: Online Education in America » Blog Archive » Remainders: Duncan says final Race to the Top rules out soon http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/11/where-diploma-dreams-go-to-die/#comment-51999 Online Education in America » Blog Archive » Remainders: Duncan says final Race to the Top rules out soon Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:16:54 +0000 http://www.joannejacobs.com/?p=11863#comment-51999 [...] might have “drop-out factories” in higher ed as well as high school, says Joanne [...] [...] might have “drop-out factories” in higher ed as well as high school, says Joanne [...]

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]]> By: Cardinal Fang http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/11/where-diploma-dreams-go-to-die/#comment-51996 Cardinal Fang Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:58:33 +0000 http://www.joannejacobs.com/?p=11863#comment-51996 "These are Arne Duncan’s students washing out of college, Carey notes." Not really. Duncan became CEO of the Chicago public schools in 2001. These six-year graduation numbers are for students who started college in 2002 and failed to graduate by 2008. In other words, these students were high school seniors by the time they were under Duncan's purview. “These are Arne Duncan’s students washing out of college, Carey notes.”

Not really. Duncan became CEO of the Chicago public schools in 2001. These six-year graduation numbers are for students who started college in 2002 and failed to graduate by 2008. In other words, these students were high school seniors by the time they were under Duncan’s purview.

]]> By: Cardinal Fang http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/11/where-diploma-dreams-go-to-die/#comment-51995 Cardinal Fang Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:44:20 +0000 http://www.joannejacobs.com/?p=11863#comment-51995 "The six-year graduation rate is 13 percent; after eight years, that rises to only 27 percent." Those statistics jump out. The eight year graduation rate is over *double* the six year graduation rate. That suggests to me that the students are not hopeless, or at least not all of them are hopeless. Rather, they are unprepared, and probably working their way through college. It's taking them longer than four years, but a quarter of them are getting through. I wonder what the ten year graduation rate is. Given the students they are educating, who are mostly poor and underprepared, what are other colleges doing to get a better graduation rate? “The six-year graduation rate is 13 percent; after eight years, that rises to only 27 percent.”

Those statistics jump out. The eight year graduation rate is over *double* the six year graduation rate. That suggests to me that the students are not hopeless, or at least not all of them are hopeless. Rather, they are unprepared, and probably working their way through college. It’s taking them longer than four years, but a quarter of them are getting through. I wonder what the ten year graduation rate is.

Given the students they are educating, who are mostly poor and underprepared, what are other colleges doing to get a better graduation rate?

]]> By: Linda F http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/11/where-diploma-dreams-go-to-die/#comment-51994 Linda F Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:05:33 +0000 http://www.joannejacobs.com/?p=11863#comment-51994 They don't fail in high school or college, they fail many years earlier, when the schools COULD tell the parents the truth - your child can't read or do math on grade level - but won't, for fear of losing their job. Instead, the students are passed along. They don’t fail in high school or college, they fail many years earlier, when the schools COULD tell the parents the truth – your child can’t read or do math on grade level – but won’t, for fear of losing their job.
Instead, the students are passed along.

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