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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of &lt;i&gt;course&lt;/i&gt; portfolios inflate scores.  That&#039;s their entire purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of <i>course</i> portfolios inflate scores.  That&#8217;s their entire purpose.</p>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jacques Cool and kriley19, JoanneLeeJacobs. JoanneLeeJacobs said: Portfolio assessments boost scores, make schools look good: http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/11/portfolio-assessment-inflates-scores/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just don&#039;t understand.  The portfolios aren&#039;t too easy, they&#039;re the NEW way, and anyone who doesn&#039;t agree obviously hates children.  

No one in real life takes a test.  They all write reports and create portfolios, so that&#039;s what our kids should be learning.

If you insist on a **standardized**, a &quot;Multiple Guess&quot;, no-think test, kids will all fail - that just shows how bad those tests are.  It&#039;s all rote memorization and everyone knows how bad THOSE teachers are.  Portfolios allow kids to be Critical Thinkers and show off their 21st Century Skills.  Standardized tests are like the 18th century, factory model of schools.

I can&#039;t believe anyone is so stupid as to think that lazy teachers would choose the better system.  They don&#039;t want to do any work during their 4 hour days while they&#039;re paid $200,000 for only working for half the year - 180 days out of 365 is even less than half!!!!!

heh.

Gotcha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just don&#8217;t understand.  The portfolios aren&#8217;t too easy, they&#8217;re the NEW way, and anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree obviously hates children.  </p>
<p>No one in real life takes a test.  They all write reports and create portfolios, so that&#8217;s what our kids should be learning.</p>
<p>If you insist on a **standardized**, a &#8220;Multiple Guess&#8221;, no-think test, kids will all fail &#8211; that just shows how bad those tests are.  It&#8217;s all rote memorization and everyone knows how bad THOSE teachers are.  Portfolios allow kids to be Critical Thinkers and show off their 21st Century Skills.  Standardized tests are like the 18th century, factory model of schools.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe anyone is so stupid as to think that lazy teachers would choose the better system.  They don&#8217;t want to do any work during their 4 hour days while they&#8217;re paid $200,000 for only working for half the year &#8211; 180 days out of 365 is even less than half!!!!!</p>
<p>heh.</p>
<p>Gotcha.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael E. Lopez, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael E. Lopez, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Portfolios are at least as much of a joke as measuring achievement by looking at final report card grades.

Hey... maybe we can do that!  Just look at people&#039;s grades and if they&#039;re high enough, we&#039;ll give the school rewards.

Yeah.  Let&#039;s see how that works out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portfolios are at least as much of a joke as measuring achievement by looking at final report card grades.</p>
<p>Hey&#8230; maybe we can do that!  Just look at people&#8217;s grades and if they&#8217;re high enough, we&#8217;ll give the school rewards.</p>
<p>Yeah.  Let&#8217;s see how that works out.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Portfolios are terrific for highlighting strengths, and in particular strengths that could be missed on standardized tests.  They can in theory be good for identifying weaknesses, but in my experience that is a rarely-used function, as teachers are not eager to use them for that purpose.  But they are terrible for measuring progress in basic (or advanced) skills, unless they include before/after assessments of the skills, not just examples of student work that uses the skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portfolios are terrific for highlighting strengths, and in particular strengths that could be missed on standardized tests.  They can in theory be good for identifying weaknesses, but in my experience that is a rarely-used function, as teachers are not eager to use them for that purpose.  But they are terrible for measuring progress in basic (or advanced) skills, unless they include before/after assessments of the skills, not just examples of student work that uses the skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo/Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margo/Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m puzzled. I thought that there was a 2% cap on the number of students who could be testing in an altervative way and count for accountability. Now, it&#039;s 2% of the total population--not 2% of the total population with disabilities. But,assuming a fairly typical incidence rate of 15% for students with disabilities, if half were tested using portfolios, that would be 7.5% of the total population--which is way over the 2% cap. Now, they are free to test as many kids as they want by alternative means--but only 2% can count for accountability purposes. That leaves over 5% to report as &quot;untested.&quot; This would mean that they would not be able to make AYP even if every other student in the system was tested. 

While there is considerable room for subjectivity in these individually determined portfolio assessments, particularly in defining goals, they likely have a legitimate role for students with severe cognitive disabilities whose IEPs differ significantly from the state&#039;s academic standards--students whose goals have to do with primary communication and mobility issues, for instance. When used in this manner and with this population, we need to be vigilant that rigorous and meaningful goals are set and appropriately measured. 

For many other students with disabilities, we need to change our thinking away from that which equates disability with &quot;slow&quot; and expects that it is reasonable to simply lower the bar and turn out a population that has been instructed several grade levels below that of their typical peers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m puzzled. I thought that there was a 2% cap on the number of students who could be testing in an altervative way and count for accountability. Now, it&#8217;s 2% of the total population&#8211;not 2% of the total population with disabilities. But,assuming a fairly typical incidence rate of 15% for students with disabilities, if half were tested using portfolios, that would be 7.5% of the total population&#8211;which is way over the 2% cap. Now, they are free to test as many kids as they want by alternative means&#8211;but only 2% can count for accountability purposes. That leaves over 5% to report as &#8220;untested.&#8221; This would mean that they would not be able to make AYP even if every other student in the system was tested. </p>
<p>While there is considerable room for subjectivity in these individually determined portfolio assessments, particularly in defining goals, they likely have a legitimate role for students with severe cognitive disabilities whose IEPs differ significantly from the state&#8217;s academic standards&#8211;students whose goals have to do with primary communication and mobility issues, for instance. When used in this manner and with this population, we need to be vigilant that rigorous and meaningful goals are set and appropriately measured. </p>
<p>For many other students with disabilities, we need to change our thinking away from that which equates disability with &#8220;slow&#8221; and expects that it is reasonable to simply lower the bar and turn out a population that has been instructed several grade levels below that of their typical peers.</p>
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