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		<title>By: Linda F</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/09/a-new-hard-test-of-our-wisdom/#comment-50636</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing about TV is that is sucks us into watching it.  I had an interesting experience years ago.  My TV broke, and we used a black &amp; white portable for several months.

After a few days, I noticed that we we turning it off and walking away once the show we were watching was over, rather than sitting passively, waiting for the &quot;next show&quot;.  It just wasn&#039;t that interesting.

When we replaced the TV with a color model, we were back in the habit of passive, mindless viewing of whatever was on.  It appears that the more &quot;lifelike&quot; the picture, the more we watched TV.

I hate to think of the lure of HDTV - our society may begin to resemble the people in Wall-E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing about TV is that is sucks us into watching it.  I had an interesting experience years ago.  My TV broke, and we used a black &amp; white portable for several months.</p>
<p>After a few days, I noticed that we we turning it off and walking away once the show we were watching was over, rather than sitting passively, waiting for the &#8220;next show&#8221;.  It just wasn&#8217;t that interesting.</p>
<p>When we replaced the TV with a color model, we were back in the habit of passive, mindless viewing of whatever was on.  It appears that the more &#8220;lifelike&#8221; the picture, the more we watched TV.</p>
<p>I hate to think of the lure of HDTV &#8211; our society may begin to resemble the people in Wall-E.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, Arnheim was pretty accurate with his prediction....so I wonder if the internet and blogging is a step forward or back...or maybe to the side....at least we have some dialog and interaction..but it does take away from much of the human element of interaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, Arnheim was pretty accurate with his prediction&#8230;.so I wonder if the internet and blogging is a step forward or back&#8230;or maybe to the side&#8230;.at least we have some dialog and interaction..but it does take away from much of the human element of interaction.</p>
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		<title>By: bandit</title>
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		<dc:creator>bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno - TV seems fairly popular - what was your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno &#8211; TV seems fairly popular &#8211; what was your point?</p>
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		<title>By: ponderosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>ponderosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, Diana, and a topic that I&#039;ve been thinking about lately as I struggle to cope with the new gadgets placed in my classroom last month.  As with pedagogical innovations, tech innovations seem to be dropped into our laps with great fanfare and predictions of glory  --and then never evaluated to see if the benefits outweighed the costs.  In fact, I bet that few Americans would ever even acknowledge that there COULD be an innovation that had net negative effect.  Innovation = good is an article of faith in America.  Nevermind the massive disruptions each time an old tool is replaced by a new one.  I love these tech triumphalists who seem to delight in the demise of newspapers.  Old = bad, contemptible, deserves to die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Diana, and a topic that I&#8217;ve been thinking about lately as I struggle to cope with the new gadgets placed in my classroom last month.  As with pedagogical innovations, tech innovations seem to be dropped into our laps with great fanfare and predictions of glory  &#8211;and then never evaluated to see if the benefits outweighed the costs.  In fact, I bet that few Americans would ever even acknowledge that there COULD be an innovation that had net negative effect.  Innovation = good is an article of faith in America.  Nevermind the massive disruptions each time an old tool is replaced by a new one.  I love these tech triumphalists who seem to delight in the demise of newspapers.  Old = bad, contemptible, deserves to die.</p>
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		<title>By: timfromtexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>timfromtexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always out and about finding out and experiencing things on my own. I don&#039;t watch tv and never go to the movies. Why would I want to watch that which I already know over and over and over again.

I&#039;m 66 years old and I&#039;m out,more or less, from 7 am until 9 pm or later every single day. I&#039;m not afraid. I don&#039;t need tv or a movie to tell me what to think,or what is frightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always out and about finding out and experiencing things on my own. I don&#8217;t watch tv and never go to the movies. Why would I want to watch that which I already know over and over and over again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 66 years old and I&#8217;m out,more or less, from 7 am until 9 pm or later every single day. I&#8217;m not afraid. I don&#8217;t need tv or a movie to tell me what to think,or what is frightening.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Bemont</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/09/a-new-hard-test-of-our-wisdom/#comment-50631</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Bemont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without a doubt, the workings of the dominant mass medium will always have extreme effects on both society and the individual&#039;s thought processes.

The world of print encouraged reflective, analytical, independent minds, producing the culture that westerners think of as normal: rapid technological progress, separation of church and state, so-called democracy, and capitalism.

The world of screen, particularly television, massively limited the reach of print into the full population, while producing effects of its own that seem nearly opposite: in particular, shortened attention spans and valuation of entertainment and emotion over ideas.

Neil Postman&#039;s books (Especially Entertaining Ourselves to Death) did a wonderful job of contrasting the heyday of print with the television era.

It is beyon mere mortals to figure out, however, where the Internet and its allies will take us.  An early guess is a valuation of options over all else.  Where print produced a cultural norm of investigation and television produced a cultural norm of recreation, I suspect we will now see a cultural norm of choices take hold.

But what will happen to community? Family? The balance between large and small business?  Between general citizenry and the elites?  And how about intellectual ownership?

However, my read on history is that the critics will prove to be irrelevant.  Technology&#039;s impact has little to do with an informed citizenry deciding upon the rules (except perhaps in Amish communities).  The new technology will take us where its structure takes us, and we will be alarmed as we go along and surprised when we get there -- although, when our grandchildren go back and read through all the predictions from the early 2000s, some will have some truth, if only due to the law of averages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without a doubt, the workings of the dominant mass medium will always have extreme effects on both society and the individual&#8217;s thought processes.</p>
<p>The world of print encouraged reflective, analytical, independent minds, producing the culture that westerners think of as normal: rapid technological progress, separation of church and state, so-called democracy, and capitalism.</p>
<p>The world of screen, particularly television, massively limited the reach of print into the full population, while producing effects of its own that seem nearly opposite: in particular, shortened attention spans and valuation of entertainment and emotion over ideas.</p>
<p>Neil Postman&#8217;s books (Especially Entertaining Ourselves to Death) did a wonderful job of contrasting the heyday of print with the television era.</p>
<p>It is beyon mere mortals to figure out, however, where the Internet and its allies will take us.  An early guess is a valuation of options over all else.  Where print produced a cultural norm of investigation and television produced a cultural norm of recreation, I suspect we will now see a cultural norm of choices take hold.</p>
<p>But what will happen to community? Family? The balance between large and small business?  Between general citizenry and the elites?  And how about intellectual ownership?</p>
<p>However, my read on history is that the critics will prove to be irrelevant.  Technology&#8217;s impact has little to do with an informed citizenry deciding upon the rules (except perhaps in Amish communities).  The new technology will take us where its structure takes us, and we will be alarmed as we go along and surprised when we get there &#8212; although, when our grandchildren go back and read through all the predictions from the early 2000s, some will have some truth, if only due to the law of averages.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightly Seasoned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightly Seasoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Neil Postman&#039;s assessment of TV is even more accurate when applied to web technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Neil Postman&#8217;s assessment of TV is even more accurate when applied to web technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: david foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>david foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diana, you might be interested in my post on the social/psychological impact of new media technologies: &lt;a href=&quot;http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5851.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;duz web mak us dumr?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diana, you might be interested in my post on the social/psychological impact of new media technologies: <a href="http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5851.html" rel="nofollow">duz web mak us dumr?</a></p>
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