Comments on: Texas schools get credit for kids who fail http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/07/texas-schools-get-credit-for-kids-who-fail/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:52:13 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ragnarok http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/07/texas-schools-get-credit-for-kids-who-fail/#comment-48447 Ragnarok Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:24:50 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=10151#comment-48447 <i>"Also, if a student is performing in math on a sixth grade level and is in the ninth grade,..."</i> Then he shouldn't be in the 9th-grade. “Also, if a student is performing in math on a sixth grade level and is in the ninth grade,…”

Then he shouldn’t be in the 9th-grade.

]]> By: Jill http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/07/texas-schools-get-credit-for-kids-who-fail/#comment-48446 Jill Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:58:56 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=10151#comment-48446 Let me put it a little more clearly. In Texas, there are over 30 indicators of success or failure, 30 different groups of students that are examined for levels of success. If you fail at JUST ONE, you fail the whole assessment and drop a level of accountability. Is that fair? Also, if a student is performing in math on a sixth grade level and is in the ninth grade, that students will probably have to take the ninth grade TAKS test. There is no way that student could pass, and the school is marked down for it. Now, however, if the student was on a fifth grade level the year before and IMPROVES their score from the previous assessment, they are now counted as success, not as failure. I for one think this is much more fair than saying that because their ability level doesn't match their performance level, it's an automatic failure. We need to stop measuring failures and measure successes. Which is more uplifting for the student, parent, teacher, and community? Let me put it a little more clearly. In Texas, there are over 30 indicators of success or failure, 30 different groups of students that are examined for levels of success. If you fail at JUST ONE, you fail the whole assessment and drop a level of accountability. Is that fair?

Also, if a student is performing in math on a sixth grade level and is in the ninth grade, that students will probably have to take the ninth grade TAKS test. There is no way that student could pass, and the school is marked down for it. Now, however, if the student was on a fifth grade level the year before and IMPROVES their score from the previous assessment, they are now counted as success, not as failure. I for one think this is much more fair than saying that because their ability level doesn’t match their performance level, it’s an automatic failure.

We need to stop measuring failures and measure successes. Which is more uplifting for the student, parent, teacher, and community?

]]> By: tim-10-ber http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/07/texas-schools-get-credit-for-kids-who-fail/#comment-48445 tim-10-ber Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:25:49 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=10151#comment-48445 I am pretty certain this is true in Tennessee as it is the home of the value added model. If you state has introduced the value added model then your state probably does the same thing. Good luck!! The schools are not held accountable when the child fails to meet the already low level of proficient. Forced school is more and more of a farce... Oh...I am reading The Myth of the Common School. Thanks for the recommendation. It is very, very interesting. Forced schooling has never been about educating the child in the sense of learning reading, writing, math, etc. It has always been about making the a good citizen...you can take it from here... I am pretty certain this is true in Tennessee as it is the home of the value added model. If you state has introduced the value added model then your state probably does the same thing. Good luck!! The schools are not held accountable when the child fails to meet the already low level of proficient. Forced school is more and more of a farce…

Oh…I am reading The Myth of the Common School. Thanks for the recommendation. It is very, very interesting.

Forced schooling has never been about educating the child in the sense of learning reading, writing, math, etc. It has always been about making the a good citizen…you can take it from here…

]]> By: R Lee Colvin http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/07/texas-schools-get-credit-for-kids-who-fail/#comment-48444 R Lee Colvin Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:50:28 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=10151#comment-48444 texas-style non-accountability texas-style non-accountability

]]> By: JND http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/07/texas-schools-get-credit-for-kids-who-fail/#comment-48443 JND Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:11:04 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=10151#comment-48443 We are planning ahead here in Texas, right? We are planning ahead here in Texas, right?

]]> By: GGW http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/07/texas-schools-get-credit-for-kids-who-fail/#comment-48442 GGW Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:16:57 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=10151#comment-48442 Insane. Insane.

]]> By: Linda F http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/07/texas-schools-get-credit-for-kids-who-fail/#comment-48441 Linda F Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:41:32 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=10151#comment-48441 This is bogus. Other states, with more realistic rules, look bad in comparison. This is bogus. Other states, with more realistic rules, look bad in comparison.

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