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	<title>Comments on: Ordinary failures</title>
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		<title>By: Crimson Wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimson Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why we need rigorous KIPP-style schooling for disadvantaged kids right from the first day of kindergarten (or pre-k). By the time they&#039;re in 8th grade, they&#039;ve so far behind academically and many of them have made a habit of bad behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why we need rigorous KIPP-style schooling for disadvantaged kids right from the first day of kindergarten (or pre-k). By the time they&#8217;re in 8th grade, they&#8217;ve so far behind academically and many of them have made a habit of bad behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still in favor of some sort of modified tracking; we already have some type of it - we pull out the &quot;gifted and talented&quot; and the honors students.  The academic classes could be set up with students allowed in on a trial basis, if the parents think they should be there.  If they slack off, cut class, or play around, disrupting others, they have to leave (assuming that the parents have had their chance to get the kid on the right track, after being contacted).  If a kid is trying, but not getting it, they should have mandatory after-school/Saturday tutoring - if they are serious, they&#039;ll be there.  This way, the students - and their parents - will self-select.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still in favor of some sort of modified tracking; we already have some type of it &#8211; we pull out the &#8220;gifted and talented&#8221; and the honors students.  The academic classes could be set up with students allowed in on a trial basis, if the parents think they should be there.  If they slack off, cut class, or play around, disrupting others, they have to leave (assuming that the parents have had their chance to get the kid on the right track, after being contacted).  If a kid is trying, but not getting it, they should have mandatory after-school/Saturday tutoring &#8211; if they are serious, they&#8217;ll be there.  This way, the students &#8211; and their parents &#8211; will self-select.</p>
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		<title>By: ricki</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Still learning less than and greater than in eighth grade&quot;?

I remember that as a concept from first grade, personally. (The teacher used the analogy of a pelican beak: it&#039;s going to go for the &quot;biggest&quot; food, therefore the open end will point at the largest number).

My brother complained bitterly about the 2 required-for-graduation (as opposed to college-track) high school courses he had to take: they were essentially &#039;warehouses&#039; full of disruptive students.</description>
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<p>I remember that as a concept from first grade, personally. (The teacher used the analogy of a pelican beak: it&#8217;s going to go for the &#8220;biggest&#8221; food, therefore the open end will point at the largest number).</p>
<p>My brother complained bitterly about the 2 required-for-graduation (as opposed to college-track) high school courses he had to take: they were essentially &#8216;warehouses&#8217; full of disruptive students.</p>
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