Comments on: Union: Fire teachers only if they don’t pay dues

By: SuperSub

SuperSub — Tue, 12 May 2009 01:55:22 +0000

Any Freeman-
Does the “reclassification” involve individual union’s memberships in larger unions, say a state union or the national unions? I’d say more than half of my union dues go to pay for our local union’s membership in NYSUT and then NEA/AFT. Last time I checked, the only thing the state or national unions do is engage in politics.

By: bandit

bandit — Mon, 11 May 2009 18:16:06 +0000

Because it’s all about the kids

By: Andy Freeman

Andy Freeman — Sun, 10 May 2009 05:02:06 +0000

> If you have the $$$ it takes to get to the Federal Appellate level, you win.

Nope. Those decisions say that unions can’t charge non-members for some things, but can charge them for others.

Interestingly enough, after they lose on the “no deductions” lawsuite, all of the former spending gets reclassified as the latter. (Yup, teachers unions stop spending money on politics, at least according to the accounting.)

I don’t know if anyoe has won a lawsuit over the reclassification.

By: Malcolm Kirkpatrick

Malcolm Kirkpatrick — Sat, 09 May 2009 02:33:09 +0000

Supersub,

Beck versus CWA.
Abood bersus Detroit Teachers Association
Chicago Teachers Association versus Husdon
Miller versus ALPA.

If you have the $$$ it takes to get to the Federal Appellate level, you win.

By: SuperSub

SuperSub — Fri, 08 May 2009 22:02:37 +0000

At least the teachers in Detroit have the ‘option’ to pay their dues. In closed-shop states like NY I never even see the portion of my pay that the unions lay claim to.

By: Engineer-Poet

Engineer-Poet — Fri, 08 May 2009 21:58:44 +0000

Detroit does create enterprising criminals. I regularly read about entrepreneurs coming some way out of town to e.g. recycle catalytic converters for cash. Not their own, of course.

By: thaprof

thaprof — Fri, 08 May 2009 19:58:26 +0000

Let’s give the Detroit teachers’ union some credit for being honest: they could care less about educating students.

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:20:30 +0000

I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you, to learn that unions would hypocritically advocate firing teachers for not paying their union dues, but block firing them for being poor teachers.

By: Malcolm Kirkpatrick

Malcolm Kirkpatrick — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:07:59 +0000

State and local taxes supported this parasite (government-operated schooling) for 150 years. Federal subsidies (welfare programs reinstated under President Obama) may support the new parasite (Detroit city government) indefinitely.

To vote Socialist (Democrat) in the 21st Century is to demonstrate that one slept through the 20th century. To vote Republican is to demonstrate that one slept through the administration of Bush II and the Republican Congress. Does anyone see any sign that voters generally have awakened? I don’t.

Parents and taxpayers who wait for voters to awaken, or on politicians to discover ethics and fiscal responsibility, will have a long wait. If you have children, homeschool.

By: Dick Eagleson

Dick Eagleson — Fri, 08 May 2009 12:14:39 +0000

I don’t think Detroit Public Schools will survive much longer.

It is usually the case that the death of the host also dooms the parasite. Detroit appears to be well along the road to ghost town status.