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	<title>Comments on: Teaching values in an ex-Catholic school</title>
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		<title>By: michael mazenko</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/03/teaching-values-in-an-ex-catholic-school/#comment-44706</link>
		<dc:creator>michael mazenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I don&#039;t see how my comment about the moral struggle of Huck relates to Che Guevara shirts.  Perhaps you can enlighten me.  I should say that literature and humanities is &quot;a&quot; conduit, not &quot;the conduit.&quot;

The second example is, I agree, ridiculous.  Does that have anything to do with the teaching of literature, or was that just another example of a bad teacher.  There are a few out there, regardless of our idealism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I don&#8217;t see how my comment about the moral struggle of Huck relates to Che Guevara shirts.  Perhaps you can enlighten me.  I should say that literature and humanities is &#8220;a&#8221; conduit, not &#8220;the conduit.&#8221;</p>
<p>The second example is, I agree, ridiculous.  Does that have anything to do with the teaching of literature, or was that just another example of a bad teacher.  There are a few out there, regardless of our idealism.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Clearly, literature and the humanities is the conduit though which cultural morality is purveyed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That would be funny, if it weren&#039;t pathetic. Che Guevara T-shirts are &quot;cultural morality&quot;?

And this teacher needs either to be sent back to high school to re-take civics, or fired:

&lt;blockquote&gt;On his first day of eighth grade at the former Holy Name Roman Catholic school last fall, Jeffrey Stone bowed his head, clasped his hands and began to recite the Lord’s Prayer. Within seconds, his teacher chided him: “We don’t do that anymore.”

“I was shocked,” recalled Jeffrey, 13, who played on the Catholic youth basketball team and relied on his school’s pastor-in-residence for advice. “I was like, how am I going to survive?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s none of the teacher&#039;s business if the student prays or not, and it&#039;s certainly way out of line for the teacher to say, &quot;We don&#039;t do that anymore.&quot; Worse, we actually have here a student with morals, who is now going to have them stripped away (well, they will try), to be replaced with, no doubt, &quot;cultural morality.&quot;

Pardon me. I think I&#039;m going to be ill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Clearly, literature and the humanities is the conduit though which cultural morality is purveyed.</p></blockquote>
<p>That would be funny, if it weren&#8217;t pathetic. Che Guevara T-shirts are &#8220;cultural morality&#8221;?</p>
<p>And this teacher needs either to be sent back to high school to re-take civics, or fired:</p>
<blockquote><p>On his first day of eighth grade at the former Holy Name Roman Catholic school last fall, Jeffrey Stone bowed his head, clasped his hands and began to recite the Lord’s Prayer. Within seconds, his teacher chided him: “We don’t do that anymore.”</p>
<p>“I was shocked,” recalled Jeffrey, 13, who played on the Catholic youth basketball team and relied on his school’s pastor-in-residence for advice. “I was like, how am I going to survive?”</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s none of the teacher&#8217;s business if the student prays or not, and it&#8217;s certainly way out of line for the teacher to say, &#8220;We don&#8217;t do that anymore.&#8221; Worse, we actually have here a student with morals, who is now going to have them stripped away (well, they will try), to be replaced with, no doubt, &#8220;cultural morality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pardon me. I think I&#8217;m going to be ill.</p>
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		<title>By: michael mazenko</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael mazenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would assert that any school teaching literature is teaching values.  It&#039;s hard not to focus on the hopeless idealism of the American Dream/American Nightmare fueled by rampant excess and materialism in Gatsby.  Huck struggles with issues of morality throughout his adventures.  There is certainly morality at work in To Kill a Mockingbird.  Clearly, literature and the humanities is the conduit though which cultural morality is purveyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would assert that any school teaching literature is teaching values.  It&#8217;s hard not to focus on the hopeless idealism of the American Dream/American Nightmare fueled by rampant excess and materialism in Gatsby.  Huck struggles with issues of morality throughout his adventures.  There is certainly morality at work in To Kill a Mockingbird.  Clearly, literature and the humanities is the conduit though which cultural morality is purveyed.</p>
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