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		<title>By: Dick Eagleson</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/03/all-too-relevant/#comment-44773</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Eagleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us hope the thus-far nitwit Obama administration gets its economic policy act together before gracing us with another decade-long stretch of dithering and flavor-of-the-month policy randomness such as Hoover and FDR visited upon this unhappy land 1929-1939.  Otherwise, we may look forward to a long run for &quot;Depression Studies&quot; as an academic undertaking - and all the classes will be labs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us hope the thus-far nitwit Obama administration gets its economic policy act together before gracing us with another decade-long stretch of dithering and flavor-of-the-month policy randomness such as Hoover and FDR visited upon this unhappy land 1929-1939.  Otherwise, we may look forward to a long run for &#8220;Depression Studies&#8221; as an academic undertaking &#8211; and all the classes will be labs.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh - I forgot to mention why spending may not be the big problem.  The reason is that Obama is also following FDR&#039;s lead on production controls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh &#8211; I forgot to mention why spending may not be the big problem.  The reason is that Obama is also following FDR&#8217;s lead on production controls.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/03/all-too-relevant/#comment-44771</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I have the same concerns about balooning deficits and debt as everyone else, but if massive government spending got us out of the Great Depression, why won’t it get us out of this mess now?

It didn&#039;t.  But, spending is probably the least of the problems.  The Great Depression was &quot;great&quot; because FDR waged a war on production.  He didn&#039;t get off the brake until the onset of WWII when he figured out that an &quot;arsenal of democracy&quot; would have to actually produce lots of stuff.  Until then, he was all about limiting production to keep prices up.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx?RelNum=5409

Note that FDR actually continued and expanded Hoover&#039;s policies after campaigning against them.  (Yup, Hoover was doing massive stimulus and production controls.  FDR campaigned against deficit spending and then doubled-down.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I have the same concerns about balooning deficits and debt as everyone else, but if massive government spending got us out of the Great Depression, why won’t it get us out of this mess now?</p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t.  But, spending is probably the least of the problems.  The Great Depression was &#8220;great&#8221; because FDR waged a war on production.  He didn&#8217;t get off the brake until the onset of WWII when he figured out that an &#8220;arsenal of democracy&#8221; would have to actually produce lots of stuff.  Until then, he was all about limiting production to keep prices up.</p>
<p><a href="http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx?RelNum=5409" rel="nofollow">http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx?RelNum=5409</a></p>
<p>Note that FDR actually continued and expanded Hoover&#8217;s policies after campaigning against them.  (Yup, Hoover was doing massive stimulus and production controls.  FDR campaigned against deficit spending and then doubled-down.)</p>
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		<title>By: Walter_E_Wallis</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/03/all-too-relevant/#comment-44770</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter_E_Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember stopping in Pratt, Kansas in 1936, on our way from Missouri o California. If you want to emulate the dust bowl experience, stand in front of a powerful fan and have someone throw dirt into it. 
In Sacramento on North B street, was Louie&#039;s camp, where you could rent a 20x20 lot and erect a structure on it. On each of 2 streets was an outhouse and a water faucet. That place stayed until 1959, I hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember stopping in Pratt, Kansas in 1936, on our way from Missouri o California. If you want to emulate the dust bowl experience, stand in front of a powerful fan and have someone throw dirt into it.<br />
In Sacramento on North B street, was Louie&#8217;s camp, where you could rent a 20&#215;20 lot and erect a structure on it. On each of 2 streets was an outhouse and a water faucet. That place stayed until 1959, I hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan G</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/03/all-too-relevant/#comment-44769</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that kids generally don&#039;t take interest in depression-era US history as I always found it fascinating.

If you support these core initiatives:
•	Effective, empowered teachers and school leaders; 
•	Student assessments that stress 21st century skills; 
•	Universal access to high-quality early education; 
•	A safe, healthy learning environment; and 
•	Affordable college for all students;
Then let President Obama know! Visit EDVOTERS.ORG and sign the petition today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that kids generally don&#8217;t take interest in depression-era US history as I always found it fascinating.</p>
<p>If you support these core initiatives:<br />
•	Effective, empowered teachers and school leaders;<br />
•	Student assessments that stress 21st century skills;<br />
•	Universal access to high-quality early education;<br />
•	A safe, healthy learning environment; and<br />
•	Affordable college for all students;<br />
Then let President Obama know! Visit EDVOTERS.ORG and sign the petition today!</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t massive government spending so much that got us out of the Great Depression, but the increase in money supply available to the economy.  Throughout the Depression the US govt refused to let the money supply increase out of a fear of inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t massive government spending so much that got us out of the Great Depression, but the increase in money supply available to the economy.  Throughout the Depression the US govt refused to let the money supply increase out of a fear of inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: michael mazenko</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael mazenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When 9/11 happened, many people were too quick to associate it with &quot;this generations Pearl Harbor.&quot;  Those predictions clearly overstated the impact and understated the incredible sacrifices made by The Greatest Generation.  Thus, historical connections are precarious things.  This moment in history clearly takes people back to the late 70s and early 80s, and it is generating the type of debate to fueled the New Deal, as well as the antithesis in Reaganomics.  That relevance is probably good for America.  It certainly addresses some of the questions from &quot;What&#039;s the Matter with Kansas,&quot; whereby conservative parts of the country voted against their own economic interest.  That was easier to do in a growing economy.  Crisis, on the other hand, leads people to be more creative, as well as inquisitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When 9/11 happened, many people were too quick to associate it with &#8220;this generations Pearl Harbor.&#8221;  Those predictions clearly overstated the impact and understated the incredible sacrifices made by The Greatest Generation.  Thus, historical connections are precarious things.  This moment in history clearly takes people back to the late 70s and early 80s, and it is generating the type of debate to fueled the New Deal, as well as the antithesis in Reaganomics.  That relevance is probably good for America.  It certainly addresses some of the questions from &#8220;What&#8217;s the Matter with Kansas,&#8221; whereby conservative parts of the country voted against their own economic interest.  That was easier to do in a growing economy.  Crisis, on the other hand, leads people to be more creative, as well as inquisitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Fermoyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Fermoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree!  My kids showed a lot more interest in the 
Great Depression this year than they ever had before.  One question I do have, though, involves how we got out of the Depression.  I have always taught that World War II got us out of it due to massive government spending.  Our government spent twice as much during the war as we had spent during our entire history up to that time.  That being the case, why do so many talking heads and Republicans say that Obama&#039;s stimulus package is barking up the wrong tree.  I have the same concerns about balooning deficits and debt as everyone else, but if massive government spending got us out of the Great Depression, why won&#039;t it get us out of this mess now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree!  My kids showed a lot more interest in the<br />
Great Depression this year than they ever had before.  One question I do have, though, involves how we got out of the Depression.  I have always taught that World War II got us out of it due to massive government spending.  Our government spent twice as much during the war as we had spent during our entire history up to that time.  That being the case, why do so many talking heads and Republicans say that Obama&#8217;s stimulus package is barking up the wrong tree.  I have the same concerns about balooning deficits and debt as everyone else, but if massive government spending got us out of the Great Depression, why won&#8217;t it get us out of this mess now?</p>
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