Comments on: Teacher on leave for rifle photo http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/ Free-linking and thinking on education by Joanne Jacobs Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:11:16 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lightly Seasoned http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-92210 Lightly Seasoned Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:19:13 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=7580#comment-92210 Teachers don't actually enjoy the same rights as everyone else "because of the children." I am pretty careful about images, but the gun one hadn't occurred to me. I have bird dogs, and I know there are some photos of me working them in the field that are floating around. Perhaps none of them have my name attached. (I think many/most schools still have newspapers and yearbooks?) Teachers don’t actually enjoy the same rights as everyone else “because of the children.”

I am pretty careful about images, but the gun one hadn’t occurred to me. I have bird dogs, and I know there are some photos of me working them in the field that are floating around. Perhaps none of them have my name attached.

(I think many/most schools still have newspapers and yearbooks?)

]]> By: Bill Leonard http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-92208 Bill Leonard Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:55:49 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=7580#comment-92208 And this woman has done exactly WHAT that was illegal? The plain fact is, most of urban America has a pathological fear of any firearm. I find it amazing that this woman was challenged, let alone disciplined in some manner, for exercising her First and Second Amendment rights, on her on time. Yes, pointing a firearm at any human being -- unless you mean ultimately to fire that weapon -- is not acceptable. And yes, it appears this was a time-photo setup. Well. We live in a far different, and frankly, far more worse and more hideous country than the one this kid grew up in, in the forties and fifties. I started high school in 1957, when there was still a rifle club. Every Thursday, we could bring our own .22 rifles to school, a mentoring teacher placed them in a locked area, and we were able to shoot, learn firearms safety, and range -- and military range -- protocol, after shcool. Every male teacher in that high school was a WWII or Korean War vet. The rifle club is long gone. I was the editor of the high school paper; the girl who became my wife edited the yearbook. Today, there is no rifle club. There is no high school paper. There is no yearbook. But there is after-school basketball and other sports, subsidized by us taxpayers, and there is a whole curriculum for unwed teenage mothers. And the lefties and liberals and fools generally still wonder why so many people are angry, and actually hate the proposed policies of The Anointed One in the white House. Bill And this woman has done exactly WHAT that was illegal?

The plain fact is, most of urban America has a pathological fear of any firearm. I find it amazing that this woman was challenged, let alone disciplined in some manner, for exercising her First and Second Amendment rights, on her on time.

Yes, pointing a firearm at any human being — unless you mean ultimately to fire that weapon — is not acceptable. And yes, it appears this was a time-photo setup.

Well. We live in a far different, and frankly, far more worse and more hideous country than the one this kid grew up in, in the forties and fifties.

I started high school in 1957, when there was still a rifle club. Every Thursday, we could bring our own .22 rifles to school, a mentoring teacher placed them in a locked area, and we were able to shoot, learn firearms safety, and range — and military range — protocol, after shcool. Every male teacher in that high school was a WWII or Korean War vet.

The rifle club is long gone. I was the editor of the high school paper; the girl who became my wife edited the yearbook.

Today, there is no rifle club. There is no high school paper. There is no yearbook.

But there is after-school basketball and other sports, subsidized by us taxpayers, and there is a whole curriculum for unwed teenage mothers.

And the lefties and liberals and fools generally still wonder why so many people are angry, and actually hate the proposed policies of The Anointed One in the white House.

Bill

]]> By: Miller Smith http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-92201 Miller Smith Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:51:24 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=7580#comment-92201 Well, the school system returned the teacher to the job with the admission that the teacher did nothing wrong. Well, the school system returned the teacher to the job with the admission that the teacher did nothing wrong.

]]> By: Miller T. Smith http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-92193 Miller T. Smith Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:57:00 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=7580#comment-92193 “A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity” Sigmund Freud “A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity”
Sigmund Freud

]]> By: Darren http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-92177 Darren Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:43:53 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=7580#comment-92177 What teachers do on their own time is not the school's business, unless it directly relates to teaching children. I hope those idiots don't have any Massachusetts quarters in their pockets, what with their representation of a Minuteman on them and all.... What teachers do on their own time is not the school’s business, unless it directly relates to teaching children.

I hope those idiots don’t have any Massachusetts quarters in their pockets, what with their representation of a Minuteman on them and all….

]]> By: Richard Aubrey http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-92173 Richard Aubrey Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:51:30 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=7580#comment-92173 Ace of Spades had your "awwww" moment. A video of a little Belgian kid in what was a good pass for British battle dress. Kilt, knee socks, gabardine blouse with stripes, and a tam. He was waiting for a Canadian contingent to pass in a memorial ceremony. When they did, he snapped a really good brit-style salute. The Canucks gave him a return salute and "eyes right". Worth searching out from a week or so back. Some of the commenters observed that, had that been an American kid he'd have been detained for mandatory psychiatric testing and expelled as a threat. "hoplophobic" indeed. Good point. Ace of Spades had your “awwww” moment. A video of a little Belgian kid in what was a good pass for British battle dress. Kilt, knee socks, gabardine blouse with stripes, and a tam. He was waiting for a Canadian contingent to pass in a memorial ceremony. When they did, he snapped a really good brit-style salute. The Canucks gave him a return salute and “eyes right”.
Worth searching out from a week or so back.
Some of the commenters observed that, had that been an American kid he’d have been detained for mandatory psychiatric testing and expelled as a threat.

“hoplophobic” indeed. Good point.

]]> By: Andy Freeman http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-92172 Andy Freeman Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:51:20 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=7580#comment-92172 > Pointing the rifle at the camera is poor gun safety, though. Why? It's just a camera? It's poor gun safety only if said camera was being held by a person. The picture looks like it was taken with a time-delay. > Pointing the rifle at the camera is poor gun safety, though.

Why? It’s just a camera?

It’s poor gun safety only if said camera was being held by a person.

The picture looks like it was taken with a time-delay.

]]> By: Doug Sundseth http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-92169 Doug Sundseth Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:38:53 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=7580#comment-92169 I certainly don't have a problem with the teacher carrying firearms or being photographed holding (or firing) them. Pointing the rifle at the camera is poor gun safety, though. Had that been the reason for the suspension, I would have considered the action to be a bit draconian, but defensible. In this case, though.... I certainly don’t have a problem with the teacher carrying firearms or being photographed holding (or firing) them. Pointing the rifle at the camera is poor gun safety, though. Had that been the reason for the suspension, I would have considered the action to be a bit draconian, but defensible.

In this case, though….

]]> By: Mike in Texas http://www.joannejacobs.com/2009/02/teacher-on-leave-for-rifle-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-92165 Mike in Texas Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:29:19 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=7580#comment-92165 Here in Texas this would not be a problem, they regularly publish photos of hunters with their rifles and dead deer in the newspaper. Here in Texas this would not be a problem, they regularly publish photos of hunters with their rifles and dead deer in the newspaper.

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