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		<title>By: BadaBing</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/teasing-is-educational/#comment-41965</link>
		<dc:creator>BadaBing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard and Dal

We are living in the age of Oprah, in which people have hyper-tuned their feelings so as to be offended, hurt or victimized by things people wouldn&#039;t have batted an eyelash at forty years ago. Better knock off the teasing. People take themselves very seriously these days. Besides, I feel the dark shadow of anti-teasing legislation closing in on us. On the other hand, could some posters be confusing teasing with assault and battery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard and Dal</p>
<p>We are living in the age of Oprah, in which people have hyper-tuned their feelings so as to be offended, hurt or victimized by things people wouldn&#8217;t have batted an eyelash at forty years ago. Better knock off the teasing. People take themselves very seriously these days. Besides, I feel the dark shadow of anti-teasing legislation closing in on us. On the other hand, could some posters be confusing teasing with assault and battery?</p>
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		<title>By: Beth D</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/teasing-is-educational/#comment-41964</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarcasm often falls under the teasing category and most children do not understand sarcasm. Teasing happens, but how you teach children to deal with it is one thing. Teaching them to do it, is another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarcasm often falls under the teasing category and most children do not understand sarcasm. Teasing happens, but how you teach children to deal with it is one thing. Teaching them to do it, is another.</p>
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		<title>By: Dal</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/teasing-is-educational/#comment-41963</link>
		<dc:creator>Dal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best teachers I ever had were those that teased the students mercilessly if they got out of line.  The students therefore *seldom* got out of line, and I therefore learned more than I did with more wishy-washy teachers.

Students, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best teachers I ever had were those that teased the students mercilessly if they got out of line.  The students therefore *seldom* got out of line, and I therefore learned more than I did with more wishy-washy teachers.</p>
<p>Students, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Homeschooling Granny</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/teasing-is-educational/#comment-41962</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeschooling Granny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard N.

Teasing may be common in your circle but not everyone teases. There are better ways to handle the feelings that lead to teasing. Children who learn those better ways are not being coddled, they are being armed. I know a number of children educated at home who have never been teased and am confident that when they do encounter it later in life, they will not tolerate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard N.</p>
<p>Teasing may be common in your circle but not everyone teases. There are better ways to handle the feelings that lead to teasing. Children who learn those better ways are not being coddled, they are being armed. I know a number of children educated at home who have never been teased and am confident that when they do encounter it later in life, they will not tolerate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo/Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/teasing-is-educational/#comment-41961</link>
		<dc:creator>Margo/Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like LS, I have learned (as an adult) that I have a certain power to impact some really harmful stuff by simply refusing to participate. I can refuse to listen, I can challenge (often through a single re-directing sentence), I can say things like, &quot;I don&#039;t get into that kind of talk about people,&quot; I can be the counter example who take time to figure out what contribution someone has to make. 

I have, as an adult, been victimized by people (ie: employers) who have power to hurt people unchecked--and I am better off when our relationship ends. From this, I can try to teach my one child--who is a virtual lightening rod, ways to avoid victimization. But that is not the way that I choose to operate when I am in a position of responsibility for children. Children deserve to know that there are other ways of operating in groups, that we live in a society that grants rights to those who are among the least able to defend themselves--and do so out of a belief system that is good. They need to know that certain behaviors are NOT just the way that people are, that there are things that can be done. I don&#039;t know that jb envisions when s/he speaks of what authority figures do--but I suspect that this vision exists within the paradigm of those with the most power rule (sort of) and that the way that someone would seek to teach something other than harassing behavior would be through some authoritarian system of punishing the bad kids.

Just as we don&#039;t teach multiplication or spelling by punishing or excluding the kids who make mistakes, we don&#039;t teach respect by punishing the kids who follow bad examples. We teach them the right way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like LS, I have learned (as an adult) that I have a certain power to impact some really harmful stuff by simply refusing to participate. I can refuse to listen, I can challenge (often through a single re-directing sentence), I can say things like, &#8220;I don&#8217;t get into that kind of talk about people,&#8221; I can be the counter example who take time to figure out what contribution someone has to make. </p>
<p>I have, as an adult, been victimized by people (ie: employers) who have power to hurt people unchecked&#8211;and I am better off when our relationship ends. From this, I can try to teach my one child&#8211;who is a virtual lightening rod, ways to avoid victimization. But that is not the way that I choose to operate when I am in a position of responsibility for children. Children deserve to know that there are other ways of operating in groups, that we live in a society that grants rights to those who are among the least able to defend themselves&#8211;and do so out of a belief system that is good. They need to know that certain behaviors are NOT just the way that people are, that there are things that can be done. I don&#8217;t know that jb envisions when s/he speaks of what authority figures do&#8211;but I suspect that this vision exists within the paradigm of those with the most power rule (sort of) and that the way that someone would seek to teach something other than harassing behavior would be through some authoritarian system of punishing the bad kids.</p>
<p>Just as we don&#8217;t teach multiplication or spelling by punishing or excluding the kids who make mistakes, we don&#8217;t teach respect by punishing the kids who follow bad examples. We teach them the right way.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightly Seasoned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightly Seasoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen bullying and nasty teasing behavior in the corporate workplace -- except there it is called &quot;office politics.&quot;  I don&#039;t know whether it is adults who came through middle school learning how to navigate this behavior are successful because they can function within in or because they know how to victimize others.  Nobody really tries it on me for very long because I&#039;m just unfazed by it (I learned early that not reacting/participating shuts it all down very fast), but I&#039;ve spent a lot of time observing the dynamics in both adults and teenagers, and they&#039;re largely the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen bullying and nasty teasing behavior in the corporate workplace &#8212; except there it is called &#8220;office politics.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t know whether it is adults who came through middle school learning how to navigate this behavior are successful because they can function within in or because they know how to victimize others.  Nobody really tries it on me for very long because I&#8217;m just unfazed by it (I learned early that not reacting/participating shuts it all down very fast), but I&#8217;ve spent a lot of time observing the dynamics in both adults and teenagers, and they&#8217;re largely the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nieporent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Nieporent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is easy to see who the losers are on this website. I’m just kidding. No, really, I am not teasing you. :)

I wonder why people think that their children can or should be protected from life. They must not be exposed to anything that “hurts” them in any way. I joke about parent’s covering their children in bubble wrap to prevent them from hurting themselves when they go outside to play. I guess now they are also going to have to stuff their children’s ears with cotton to prevent them from hearing anything that hurts their feelings. Being teased and teasing others is a normal way that children and adults interact with one another. There is nothing wrong with it and it is not the same as bullying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easy to see who the losers are on this website. I’m just kidding. No, really, I am not teasing you. <img src='http://www.joannejacobs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I wonder why people think that their children can or should be protected from life. They must not be exposed to anything that “hurts” them in any way. I joke about parent’s covering their children in bubble wrap to prevent them from hurting themselves when they go outside to play. I guess now they are also going to have to stuff their children’s ears with cotton to prevent them from hearing anything that hurts their feelings. Being teased and teasing others is a normal way that children and adults interact with one another. There is nothing wrong with it and it is not the same as bullying.</p>
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		<title>By: ricki</title>
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		<dc:creator>ricki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was bully-teased all through grade school. The bad stuff I learned was to question my worth as a person (I still do), that sometimes people who call themselves your friends will not come to your aid if they fear retribution, and that someone who is saying something nice to you now may be using it as a way to &quot;build&quot; an even bigger way of bullying you later (so be suspicious of people being nice to you).

The good stuff I learned? Being bullied really, really sucks, so it&#039;s best to be compassionate to those around you, especially those below you on the &quot;pecking order.&quot;

I am not sure that the good stuff totally outweighs the bad. 

To this day I have a very hard time separating &quot;kindly&quot; teasing from &quot;hostile&quot; teasing, because so much of my experience of it as a kid was hostile. (In my family, we didn&#039;t really tease, so I had no &quot;inoculation&quot; there)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was bully-teased all through grade school. The bad stuff I learned was to question my worth as a person (I still do), that sometimes people who call themselves your friends will not come to your aid if they fear retribution, and that someone who is saying something nice to you now may be using it as a way to &#8220;build&#8221; an even bigger way of bullying you later (so be suspicious of people being nice to you).</p>
<p>The good stuff I learned? Being bullied really, really sucks, so it&#8217;s best to be compassionate to those around you, especially those below you on the &#8220;pecking order.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not sure that the good stuff totally outweighs the bad. </p>
<p>To this day I have a very hard time separating &#8220;kindly&#8221; teasing from &#8220;hostile&#8221; teasing, because so much of my experience of it as a kid was hostile. (In my family, we didn&#8217;t really tease, so I had no &#8220;inoculation&#8221; there)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Genereux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Genereux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There needs to be a balance here. If we swoop in and rescue every time a teasing situation arises, kids will be ill prepared for those times in life when there&#039;s no one around to rescue them. If we turn a blind eye to it, the bullies get the mistaken notion that it&#039;s ok.

There is a grain of truth to what the quoted psychologist says, but it&#039;s unfair to leave kids totally defenseless. We need to help kids acquire the skills they need to handle teasing. Jim Fay has a great article on teaseproofing kids here: http://www.loveandlogic.com/pages/teaseproof.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There needs to be a balance here. If we swoop in and rescue every time a teasing situation arises, kids will be ill prepared for those times in life when there&#8217;s no one around to rescue them. If we turn a blind eye to it, the bullies get the mistaken notion that it&#8217;s ok.</p>
<p>There is a grain of truth to what the quoted psychologist says, but it&#8217;s unfair to leave kids totally defenseless. We need to help kids acquire the skills they need to handle teasing. Jim Fay has a great article on teaseproofing kids here: <a href="http://www.loveandlogic.com/pages/teaseproof.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.loveandlogic.com/pages/teaseproof.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Homeschooling Granny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homeschooling Granny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another reason to educate at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another reason to educate at home.</p>
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