Comments on: D.C. charters outperform district schools http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/dc-charters-outperform-district-schools/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:52:13 +0000 hourly 1 By: Andy Freeman http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/dc-charters-outperform-district-schools/#comment-42122 Andy Freeman Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:07:48 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=6688#comment-42122 > they’re not really the same students: Actually, they are the same students, even if if they're not like the average public school student. The relevant question is whether the kids who get to go to charter schools do better in charter schools than they did in public schools. Maybe some students won't do better in charter schools than they did in public schools. They should stay in public schools. However, what is the "education is important" argument that says that students who do better in charter schools than public schools should attend public schools? > they’re not really the same students:

Actually, they are the same students, even if if they’re not like the average public school student.

The relevant question is whether the kids who get to go to charter schools do better in charter schools than they did in public schools.

Maybe some students won’t do better in charter schools than they did in public schools. They should stay in public schools. However, what is the “education is important” argument that says that students who do better in charter schools than public schools should attend public schools?

]]> By: pm http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/dc-charters-outperform-district-schools/#comment-42121 pm Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:20:41 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=6688#comment-42121 Looks like some otherwise disadvantaged children are getting an advantage because of charter schools. Good for them! IMHO, there's nothing in the report that would lead one to believe that charter's have found a unique way of educating children that is making the difference. More money, better teachers, and committed students seems like a simple recipe for better results. Looks like some otherwise disadvantaged children are getting an advantage because of charter schools. Good for them!

IMHO, there’s nothing in the report that would lead one to believe that charter’s have found a unique way of educating children that is making the difference. More money, better teachers, and committed students seems like a simple recipe for better results.

]]> By: allen http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/dc-charters-outperform-district-schools/#comment-42120 allen Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:30:33 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=6688#comment-42120 <i>Charters have the ability to expel students who are disruptive;</i> So can district schools. There's just not much of an incentive to do so. After all, disruptive students don't trouble the principals much and higher administrative personnel not at all. The decision-makers aren't troubled by the presence of disruptive students and the students who might want to learn along with the teachers who might want to teach them, don't matter. Charters have the ability to expel students who are disruptive;

So can district schools. There’s just not much of an incentive to do so. After all, disruptive students don’t trouble the principals much and higher administrative personnel not at all.

The decision-makers aren’t troubled by the presence of disruptive students and the students who might want to learn along with the teachers who might want to teach them, don’t matter.

]]> By: chris http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/dc-charters-outperform-district-schools/#comment-42119 chris Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:32:16 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=6688#comment-42119 if it makes a big difference, sounds like a valuable lesson to apply from the charter if it makes a big difference, sounds like a valuable lesson to apply from the charter

]]> By: wahoofive http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/12/dc-charters-outperform-district-schools/#comment-42118 wahoofive Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:02:05 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=6688#comment-42118 As <a href='http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2008/12/dc_charters.html' rel="nofollow">Kevin Drum points out</A>, though, they're not really the same students: Parents have to apply to charter schools, so that eliminates the parents who just don't care about education Charters have the ability to expel students who are disruptive; even if that's only a few, it makes a big difference in the learning environment for everyone else. As Kevin Drum points out, though, they’re not really the same students:
Parents have to apply to charter schools, so that eliminates the parents who just don’t care about education
Charters have the ability to expel students who are disruptive; even if that’s only a few, it makes a big difference in the learning environment for everyone else.

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