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	<title>Comments on: Gates will write national standards, tests</title>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/11/gates-will-write-national-standards-tests/#comment-40979</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Gates is a pirate and a thief. He built an empire with those qualifications. He stole, he copied, he stifled innovation. He is now engaged in self penitence. He needs to enroll himself in a course in ethics and hire a good psychoanalyst.

What in the above qualifies him to set standards for education?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Gates is a pirate and a thief. He built an empire with those qualifications. He stole, he copied, he stifled innovation. He is now engaged in self penitence. He needs to enroll himself in a course in ethics and hire a good psychoanalyst.</p>
<p>What in the above qualifies him to set standards for education?</p>
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		<title>By: mlu</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind a private foundation creating an educational product.

It&#039;s just a little like charter schools in that it doesn&#039;t go far enough to really change much, since the teachers and administrators and all the usual voices will still come from the same old system.

I think we need not just standards but entire teaching orders, where intelligent groups write standards but also write curriculum, train teachers and run schools. These orders should be private without power to coerce.

Then we need several of them, that would respond to the visions of reality that animates various groups in society.

Then we need a charter or voucher system, allowing parents to freely choose which satisfies them.

Then the ranks of pundits and gurus and change marketers only need to persuade clients that they have something worth listening to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind a private foundation creating an educational product.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a little like charter schools in that it doesn&#8217;t go far enough to really change much, since the teachers and administrators and all the usual voices will still come from the same old system.</p>
<p>I think we need not just standards but entire teaching orders, where intelligent groups write standards but also write curriculum, train teachers and run schools. These orders should be private without power to coerce.</p>
<p>Then we need several of them, that would respond to the visions of reality that animates various groups in society.</p>
<p>Then we need a charter or voucher system, allowing parents to freely choose which satisfies them.</p>
<p>Then the ranks of pundits and gurus and change marketers only need to persuade clients that they have something worth listening to.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/11/gates-will-write-national-standards-tests/#comment-40977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, his small school iniative worked out so well.

Oh wait, it bombed big time,so why not let him experiment a little more with children?

&lt;i&gt;I would truly trust an outside foundation to pay people to write a better test than any professional association of educators would write (not could, would).&lt;/i&gt;

We have tons of poorly done laws and curriculum, designed by foundations, which are truly awful.

Feel free to send your child to their experimental schools but mine won&#039;t be going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, his small school iniative worked out so well.</p>
<p>Oh wait, it bombed big time,so why not let him experiment a little more with children?</p>
<p><i>I would truly trust an outside foundation to pay people to write a better test than any professional association of educators would write (not could, would).</i></p>
<p>We have tons of poorly done laws and curriculum, designed by foundations, which are truly awful.</p>
<p>Feel free to send your child to their experimental schools but mine won&#8217;t be going.</p>
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		<title>By: Great Links Curriculum, Volume 1 - World Premiere! &#8212; Education for the Aughts - American School Issues and Analysis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great Links Curriculum, Volume 1 - World Premiere! &#8212; Education for the Aughts - American School Issues and Analysis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gates?!?!? Making curriculum?!?! Relax, mouth-frothers. Ms. Jacobs and Mr. Pondiscio will calm you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gates?!?!? Making curriculum?!?! Relax, mouth-frothers. Ms. Jacobs and Mr. Pondiscio will calm you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: greifer</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/11/gates-will-write-national-standards-tests/#comment-40975</link>
		<dc:creator>greifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-- I’m not prepared to turn over the public’s interest in what is to be taught and learned to a private philanthropy, no matter how civic-minded it may be.

yeah, because the results we&#039;ve gotten from the State have been so great!

 We allow national standards for medical boards from private non profits. We have national standards for most engineering disciplines from private non profits. We have state wide national standards for attorneys. Can anyone tell me what they are objecting to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211; I’m not prepared to turn over the public’s interest in what is to be taught and learned to a private philanthropy, no matter how civic-minded it may be.</p>
<p>yeah, because the results we&#8217;ve gotten from the State have been so great!</p>
<p> We allow national standards for medical boards from private non profits. We have national standards for most engineering disciplines from private non profits. We have state wide national standards for attorneys. Can anyone tell me what they are objecting to?</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/11/gates-will-write-national-standards-tests/#comment-40974</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the test would be more nonsense. Liberals like Gates simply will not apply the same standards to others as they apply to themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the test would be more nonsense. Liberals like Gates simply will not apply the same standards to others as they apply to themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tinkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Tinkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would truly trust an outside foundation to pay people to write a better test than any professional association of educators would write (not could, would).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would truly trust an outside foundation to pay people to write a better test than any professional association of educators would write (not could, would).</p>
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		<title>By: pm</title>
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		<dc:creator>pm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that there was no reference to NAEP.  I wonder if that reflects the Gates Foundation&#039;s opinion of NAEP or just the focus of the reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that there was no reference to NAEP.  I wonder if that reflects the Gates Foundation&#8217;s opinion of NAEP or just the focus of the reporting.</p>
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