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	<title>Comments on: Not so much C.H.A.N.G.E.</title>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/not-so-much-change/comment-page-1/#comment-84015</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel - 

What is wrong with teachers fearing the consequences of their own abject stupidity?  People in private enterprise live under this threat and yet have the capacity to be quite productive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel &#8211; </p>
<p>What is wrong with teachers fearing the consequences of their own abject stupidity?  People in private enterprise live under this threat and yet have the capacity to be quite productive.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/not-so-much-change/comment-page-1/#comment-84012</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rush to judgment in the comments here is a pretty good example of why union protections serve a purpose.


What this teacher did seems like pretty poor judgment to me -- but if principals were able to react with this &quot;off with his head&quot; approach to lapses in judgment, teaching could wind up being a very fear-based profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rush to judgment in the comments here is a pretty good example of why union protections serve a purpose.</p>
<p>What this teacher did seems like pretty poor judgment to me &#8212; but if principals were able to react with this &#8220;off with his head&#8221; approach to lapses in judgment, teaching could wind up being a very fear-based profession.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Zavisca</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/not-so-much-change/comment-page-1/#comment-83951</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Zavisca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt this teacher was the head of his class in the School of Education</description>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/not-so-much-change/comment-page-1/#comment-83935</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the teacher was attempting to express contempt for blacks.  More likely he was trying to ingratiate himself with the class through the use of popular slang.  The only interview of an actual student I&#039;ve seen so far was of a black kid who said he didn&#039;t consider it offensive.  The interpretation within the class was likely something like &quot;Come help a brother get elected.&quot;

I wonder who first complained?  Someone in the class, or an adult who got wind of the story second-hand?

It was certainly poor judgment on the part of the teacher, but from what I remember of public middle school it wouldn&#039;t have been unusually so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the teacher was attempting to express contempt for blacks.  More likely he was trying to ingratiate himself with the class through the use of popular slang.  The only interview of an actual student I&#8217;ve seen so far was of a black kid who said he didn&#8217;t consider it offensive.  The interpretation within the class was likely something like &#8220;Come help a brother get elected.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder who first complained?  Someone in the class, or an adult who got wind of the story second-hand?</p>
<p>It was certainly poor judgment on the part of the teacher, but from what I remember of public middle school it wouldn&#8217;t have been unusually so.</p>
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		<title>By: BadaBing</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadaBing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point is that blacks using the n-word does not constitute racism. Whites using the n-word constitutes racism. Just ask Spike Lee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is that blacks using the n-word does not constitute racism. Whites using the n-word constitutes racism. Just ask Spike Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: Miller T. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miller T. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BadaBing, instead of getting over it, I&#039;m going to get paid and ruin a career.

Double Standards on the issue of race IS racism.  If I ever get told by anyone to &quot;get over&quot; racism, they will instantly loose their teeth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BadaBing, instead of getting over it, I&#8217;m going to get paid and ruin a career.</p>
<p>Double Standards on the issue of race IS racism.  If I ever get told by anyone to &#8220;get over&#8221; racism, they will instantly loose their teeth.</p>
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		<title>By: BadaBing</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadaBing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a double standard for whites and blacks. Everybody knows that. There&#039;s a multi-standard for whites and all non-whites. We&#039;re living in a multicultural wonderland, so get over it and teach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a double standard for whites and blacks. Everybody knows that. There&#8217;s a multi-standard for whites and all non-whites. We&#8217;re living in a multicultural wonderland, so get over it and teach.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew K. Tabor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew K. Tabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miller,

Whatever the policy, if it isn&#039;t meted out consistently, there&#039;s a problem that needs to be corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miller,</p>
<p>Whatever the policy, if it isn&#8217;t meted out consistently, there&#8217;s a problem that needs to be corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Miller Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miller Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a white boy or girl uses the n word they are on 10 day suspension and transferred to another school.  

If anyone here does not see the 14th amendment violation, then American teachers you are not.

Instead of getting over it I have just obtained an EEOC lawyer on a contengency basis.  He told me that the principal has a duty to make sure that my environment is free of racism and the fact that there is differential traeatment on the account of race makes it a hands down winner-thus contengency.

He think he can have her job just for the filing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a white boy or girl uses the n word they are on 10 day suspension and transferred to another school.  </p>
<p>If anyone here does not see the 14th amendment violation, then American teachers you are not.</p>
<p>Instead of getting over it I have just obtained an EEOC lawyer on a contengency basis.  He told me that the principal has a duty to make sure that my environment is free of racism and the fact that there is differential traeatment on the account of race makes it a hands down winner-thus contengency.</p>
<p>He think he can have her job just for the filing.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew K. Tabor</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/not-so-much-change/comment-page-1/#comment-83923</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew K. Tabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LightlySeasoned,

&quot;Please donâ€™t â€œclean upâ€ any of the books I teach. I like them just as they are.&quot;

I&#039;m with you 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LightlySeasoned,</p>
<p>&#8220;Please donâ€™t â€œclean upâ€ any of the books I teach. I like them just as they are.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you 100%.</p>
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