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	<title>Comments on: Clickers</title>
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		<title>By: SuperSub</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/clickers/#comment-39979</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many individuals focus on the &quot;will it improve a student&#039;s education?&quot; question that they forget another important one - &quot;will it make a teacher&#039;s job easier?&quot;
From what I&#039;ve heard, these clickers do make it easier to assess students in some situations, and on top of that, can be used to improve student participation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many individuals focus on the &#8220;will it improve a student&#8217;s education?&#8221; question that they forget another important one &#8211; &#8220;will it make a teacher&#8217;s job easier?&#8221;<br />
From what I&#8217;ve heard, these clickers do make it easier to assess students in some situations, and on top of that, can be used to improve student participation.</p>
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		<title>By: pm</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda F gave me an idea, with so many kids getting cell phones and wifi being so popular why not use them as clickers :)  And calculators too!  I wonder is someone is already working on that.  You could probably reduce the cost of the clicker to zero, even for the students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda F gave me an idea, with so many kids getting cell phones and wifi being so popular why not use them as clickers <img src='http://www.joannejacobs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   And calculators too!  I wonder is someone is already working on that.  You could probably reduce the cost of the clicker to zero, even for the students.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda F</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/clickers/#comment-39977</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used them, and they have many positive points:

1) I can see who responds correctly, and I can set the system for personal feedback.  The kids don&#039;t know who got it right, though.  Nice for that kid who lags behind not to feel singled out.

Also, I&#039;ve found that kids internalize the corrections better from the screen.  Re-tests with similar questions have a MUCH higher average score.

2) It does keep kids on task.  They stay much more alert.  Important in those long block classes.

3) It provides teacher feedback on lessons - targets specific areas to re-teach.  Also targets individual students with problems, so I can give tutoring or other assistance.

On the down side:

1) Expense - about $2000 per system.  They can be shared by several teachers, but still pricy.  Use a sheet of tagboard, slipped into a heavy-weight sheet protector, and a marker - per student class cost, about $2/year.

BTW, the replacement costs are high - about $100 or more a clicker.  And the kids drop them constantly.  If you&#039;re thinking about such a system, look for one with the lightest-weight clickers - the physics says that they&#039;ll get damaged less.

2) Learning curve = for the teacher - HIGH.

3) Time spent setting up system and inputting quizzes and tests - HIGH.  I did it, and it paid off later, but I estimate I spent at least 100 hours in a year&#039;s time.  Most teachers won&#039;t spend that much time (and, in my school, didn&#039;t).

Clicker systems are single-purpose - as a science teacher, I&#039;d prefer a TI-Navigator with graphing calculators.  I can use that multiple ways, including as a clicker system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used them, and they have many positive points:</p>
<p>1) I can see who responds correctly, and I can set the system for personal feedback.  The kids don&#8217;t know who got it right, though.  Nice for that kid who lags behind not to feel singled out.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve found that kids internalize the corrections better from the screen.  Re-tests with similar questions have a MUCH higher average score.</p>
<p>2) It does keep kids on task.  They stay much more alert.  Important in those long block classes.</p>
<p>3) It provides teacher feedback on lessons &#8211; targets specific areas to re-teach.  Also targets individual students with problems, so I can give tutoring or other assistance.</p>
<p>On the down side:</p>
<p>1) Expense &#8211; about $2000 per system.  They can be shared by several teachers, but still pricy.  Use a sheet of tagboard, slipped into a heavy-weight sheet protector, and a marker &#8211; per student class cost, about $2/year.</p>
<p>BTW, the replacement costs are high &#8211; about $100 or more a clicker.  And the kids drop them constantly.  If you&#8217;re thinking about such a system, look for one with the lightest-weight clickers &#8211; the physics says that they&#8217;ll get damaged less.</p>
<p>2) Learning curve = for the teacher &#8211; HIGH.</p>
<p>3) Time spent setting up system and inputting quizzes and tests &#8211; HIGH.  I did it, and it paid off later, but I estimate I spent at least 100 hours in a year&#8217;s time.  Most teachers won&#8217;t spend that much time (and, in my school, didn&#8217;t).</p>
<p>Clicker systems are single-purpose &#8211; as a science teacher, I&#8217;d prefer a TI-Navigator with graphing calculators.  I can use that multiple ways, including as a clicker system.</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/clickers/#comment-39976</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With so much money spent trying to crudely shoe-horn technology into education, it&#039;s nice to see a device that is thoughtfully designed to address a real world problem.

Personally, depending on the power of the software backing them up, these things could turn out to be a boon to data-driven teaching.  Imagine being able to go analyze a week&#039;s worth of clicker data to see how effective your teaching was, or look at a particular students mastery of various concepts using longer-term data sets.  Way cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With so much money spent trying to crudely shoe-horn technology into education, it&#8217;s nice to see a device that is thoughtfully designed to address a real world problem.</p>
<p>Personally, depending on the power of the software backing them up, these things could turn out to be a boon to data-driven teaching.  Imagine being able to go analyze a week&#8217;s worth of clicker data to see how effective your teaching was, or look at a particular students mastery of various concepts using longer-term data sets.  Way cool.</p>
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		<title>By: gahrie</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/clickers/#comment-39975</link>
		<dc:creator>gahrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I first saw these when we were adopting new textbooks a couple of years ago, I&#039;ve put them at the top of my wish list ever since.

One thing no one has mentioned is that the kids enjoy using them, and it gives them more incentive to answer the questions. While I do not subscribe to the school of thought that teachers are supposed to make school fun, this tool provides a valuable service to the teacher while providing the students some fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first saw these when we were adopting new textbooks a couple of years ago, I&#8217;ve put them at the top of my wish list ever since.</p>
<p>One thing no one has mentioned is that the kids enjoy using them, and it gives them more incentive to answer the questions. While I do not subscribe to the school of thought that teachers are supposed to make school fun, this tool provides a valuable service to the teacher while providing the students some fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Cal</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/clickers/#comment-39974</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I teach Algebra Support and we have the clickers (aka CPS). I&#039;m a fan, although there&#039;s nothing anonymous about the way we use it. We give the first correct click extra points, and keep score. The kids have a blast.

We also have the individual white boards, which take far too much time and don&#039;t allow the kids to work at their own speed. Plus, the pens are a pain and the kids always dry them out.

The clickers are great. We can give the kids a quiz ahead of time, allow them to work on it for 10-15 minutes individually and help kids who need it. Then we start the game, where speed of entry gives extra points. Plus, the clickers track all the performances.

They&#039;re very useful for lower level math courses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach Algebra Support and we have the clickers (aka CPS). I&#8217;m a fan, although there&#8217;s nothing anonymous about the way we use it. We give the first correct click extra points, and keep score. The kids have a blast.</p>
<p>We also have the individual white boards, which take far too much time and don&#8217;t allow the kids to work at their own speed. Plus, the pens are a pain and the kids always dry them out.</p>
<p>The clickers are great. We can give the kids a quiz ahead of time, allow them to work on it for 10-15 minutes individually and help kids who need it. Then we start the game, where speed of entry gives extra points. Plus, the clickers track all the performances.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re very useful for lower level math courses.</p>
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		<title>By: tabitharuth</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/clickers/#comment-39973</link>
		<dc:creator>tabitharuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fifteen years ago we used the low tech clicker of individual white boards--the students could hold up their answers and the teacher could see who got it and who didn&#039;t.  It was very helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fifteen years ago we used the low tech clicker of individual white boards&#8211;the students could hold up their answers and the teacher could see who got it and who didn&#8217;t.  It was very helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: ricki</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/clickers/#comment-39972</link>
		<dc:creator>ricki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crimson Wife - the clickers I saw demonstrated did not show the class who answered &quot;right&quot; and who answered &quot;wrong&quot; - just gave a general percentage of &quot;how many got it right&quot; vs. &quot;How many chose these other (wrong) answers.&quot; I think there was a database - private to the teacher - that keeps tabs.

I dunno. I&#039;m not an education specialist but I found the clickers fun and engaging. And I&#039;m usually pretty much anti any new technology that seems faddish to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crimson Wife &#8211; the clickers I saw demonstrated did not show the class who answered &#8220;right&#8221; and who answered &#8220;wrong&#8221; &#8211; just gave a general percentage of &#8220;how many got it right&#8221; vs. &#8220;How many chose these other (wrong) answers.&#8221; I think there was a database &#8211; private to the teacher &#8211; that keeps tabs.</p>
<p>I dunno. I&#8217;m not an education specialist but I found the clickers fun and engaging. And I&#8217;m usually pretty much anti any new technology that seems faddish to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Rude</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/clickers/#comment-39971</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Rude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not had occasion to use clickers, but I can imagine they can be put to good use.  I agree that some students, indeed many, may know an answer but not want to volunteer to speak, for a variety of reasons.  But let&#039;s not lose sight of the fundamentals.  Remember what they taught you about all that in ed school?  Remember the video examples showing students listening to the teacher?  Remember how the professor would stop the tape and point to various students and give guidance on how to read their expressions, who&#039;s anxious, who&#039;s cocky, who&#039;s lost, who&#039;s bored?  Remember how they told us of all the ways to call on a student, how one choice of words and voice inflection would come across as challenging or even intimidating, while other choices of words and inflection would come across as a friendly invitation to share, how to phrase your words so that a student could gracefully decline to answer without embarrassment, or how to  put it so a misbehaving student would receive a threat that is both compelling and yet deniable?  Remember how the professor would talk about situational language, and gestural language, that could be at odds with the surface meaning of words?  Remember all we were told about keeping topics absolutely neutral, and egos therefore off the line, about long term nurturing of classroom social climate,  about the social and psychological dynamics of different age groups and cultures, about dealing with and handling competion, about  .  .  .  .  .  .   Oops, pardon me.  I&#039;m dreaming again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not had occasion to use clickers, but I can imagine they can be put to good use.  I agree that some students, indeed many, may know an answer but not want to volunteer to speak, for a variety of reasons.  But let&#8217;s not lose sight of the fundamentals.  Remember what they taught you about all that in ed school?  Remember the video examples showing students listening to the teacher?  Remember how the professor would stop the tape and point to various students and give guidance on how to read their expressions, who&#8217;s anxious, who&#8217;s cocky, who&#8217;s lost, who&#8217;s bored?  Remember how they told us of all the ways to call on a student, how one choice of words and voice inflection would come across as challenging or even intimidating, while other choices of words and inflection would come across as a friendly invitation to share, how to phrase your words so that a student could gracefully decline to answer without embarrassment, or how to  put it so a misbehaving student would receive a threat that is both compelling and yet deniable?  Remember how the professor would talk about situational language, and gestural language, that could be at odds with the surface meaning of words?  Remember all we were told about keeping topics absolutely neutral, and egos therefore off the line, about long term nurturing of classroom social climate,  about the social and psychological dynamics of different age groups and cultures, about dealing with and handling competion, about  .  .  .  .  .  .   Oops, pardon me.  I&#8217;m dreaming again.</p>
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		<title>By: pm</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/10/clickers/#comment-39970</link>
		<dc:creator>pm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me the best thing about these devices is that every child gets a chance to answer a lot more questions on his own, with the teacher getting some real-time feedback on students performance.  The article clearly states that the teacher will know each childs performance.  Because the clickers are only used for multiple choice questions, it introduces all the issues with those kinds of problems (e.g. discrete guessing).

Students will not know what other students answered, but if questions cannot be solved in one&#039;s head then other students will clearly see who completes the work first.  Also, students may be able to see who presses a button first or which students don&#039;t press any button at all.  Perhaps its easier for students to cope with these social pressures than the ones involved in verbal questioning and answering.

Given that the teacher in the article liked them so much, I suspect they can be put to good use.  Well, that is unless it was some form of paid promotional masequerading as a news article.  Wouldn&#039;t be the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me the best thing about these devices is that every child gets a chance to answer a lot more questions on his own, with the teacher getting some real-time feedback on students performance.  The article clearly states that the teacher will know each childs performance.  Because the clickers are only used for multiple choice questions, it introduces all the issues with those kinds of problems (e.g. discrete guessing).</p>
<p>Students will not know what other students answered, but if questions cannot be solved in one&#8217;s head then other students will clearly see who completes the work first.  Also, students may be able to see who presses a button first or which students don&#8217;t press any button at all.  Perhaps its easier for students to cope with these social pressures than the ones involved in verbal questioning and answering.</p>
<p>Given that the teacher in the article liked them so much, I suspect they can be put to good use.  Well, that is unless it was some form of paid promotional masequerading as a news article.  Wouldn&#8217;t be the first time.</p>
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