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		<title>By: Crimson Wife</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39461</link>
		<dc:creator>Crimson Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The prejudice about alma maters cuts both ways. Graduates of schools like Harvard or Stanford learn very quickly to give vague answers about where they studied in many social situations. &lt;i&gt;&quot;Oh, I went to college in Boston&quot;&lt;/i&gt; often times gets a much more positive response than what&#039;s known as &quot;dropping the H-bomb&quot;. There&#039;s very much a stereotype out there about graduates of elite colleges that many of us simply don&#039;t want tainting others&#039; first impressions of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prejudice about alma maters cuts both ways. Graduates of schools like Harvard or Stanford learn very quickly to give vague answers about where they studied in many social situations. <i>&#8220;Oh, I went to college in Boston&#8221;</i> often times gets a much more positive response than what&#8217;s known as &#8220;dropping the H-bomb&#8221;. There&#8217;s very much a stereotype out there about graduates of elite colleges that many of us simply don&#8217;t want tainting others&#8217; first impressions of us.</p>
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		<title>By: ts</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39460</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joycem:  Frankly, I didn&#039;t find the picture on the Newsweek cover all that odd.  I have seen many hunters carry a shotgun over the shoulder.  But don&#039;t take it from me, the National Skeet Shooting Association has a video on You Tube that discusses how to carry a shotgun, and wouldn&#039;t you know it, one of the recommended ways to carry it is broken open, over the shoulder, muzzle down, with hands on the muzzle to provide complete control.  That Newsweek cover could have been straight from their training video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joycem:  Frankly, I didn&#8217;t find the picture on the Newsweek cover all that odd.  I have seen many hunters carry a shotgun over the shoulder.  But don&#8217;t take it from me, the National Skeet Shooting Association has a video on You Tube that discusses how to carry a shotgun, and wouldn&#8217;t you know it, one of the recommended ways to carry it is broken open, over the shoulder, muzzle down, with hands on the muzzle to provide complete control.  That Newsweek cover could have been straight from their training video.</p>
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		<title>By: Silly Old Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39459</link>
		<dc:creator>Silly Old Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Communications? Thatâ€™s not a real discipline.&lt;/i&gt;

There are all kinds of majors that don&#039;t fit the mold of a &quot;college education.&quot; But most kids go to college to get the slip of paper that tells employers, &quot;I&#039;m smarter than dirt.&quot;

Maybe I&#039;m a little biased, since I was a Communications grad myself. I had the brains to do all kinds of things, but when I entered college I wanted to be the next Jane Pauley. So I went to a small private college where I could get my hands on real video equipment as a freshman or sophomore.

The current issue of The American magazine has a great cover story on college -- how it&#039;s become very expensive vocational ed for most people, and how college as we know it is rapidly becoming obsolete.

At least Palin got to use her journalism training. I ended up not using much of mine, like a lot of college grads. (Sheesh, my brother is 32 and he&#039;s still bouncing around from school to school.) Palin became a sportscaster after U Idaho. She doesn&#039;t seem to have spent her entire life aiming for high office, which is part of her appeal for many voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Communications? Thatâ€™s not a real discipline.</i></p>
<p>There are all kinds of majors that don&#8217;t fit the mold of a &#8220;college education.&#8221; But most kids go to college to get the slip of paper that tells employers, &#8220;I&#8217;m smarter than dirt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m a little biased, since I was a Communications grad myself. I had the brains to do all kinds of things, but when I entered college I wanted to be the next Jane Pauley. So I went to a small private college where I could get my hands on real video equipment as a freshman or sophomore.</p>
<p>The current issue of The American magazine has a great cover story on college &#8212; how it&#8217;s become very expensive vocational ed for most people, and how college as we know it is rapidly becoming obsolete.</p>
<p>At least Palin got to use her journalism training. I ended up not using much of mine, like a lot of college grads. (Sheesh, my brother is 32 and he&#8217;s still bouncing around from school to school.) Palin became a sportscaster after U Idaho. She doesn&#8217;t seem to have spent her entire life aiming for high office, which is part of her appeal for many voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39458</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;However, itâ€™s suspicious to me when someone hops around a lot between colleges like Palin didâ€“whatâ€™s up with that?â€&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;suspicious???&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t let your prejudice show much. I went to a state college where I played basketball for 2 years - left and returned as a part time commuter student - worked nites and went part time days. While I can honestly say I didn&#039;t really enjoy college I did earn a degree but had little or no interaction with the college community and have no attachment whatsoever to the school. It&#039;s been at least 5 years since I&#039;ve seen or heard from anyone there. Obviously not everyone has the same college experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>However, itâ€™s suspicious to me when someone hops around a lot between colleges like Palin didâ€“whatâ€™s up with that?â€</b></p>
<p><i>suspicious???</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let your prejudice show much. I went to a state college where I played basketball for 2 years &#8211; left and returned as a part time commuter student &#8211; worked nites and went part time days. While I can honestly say I didn&#8217;t really enjoy college I did earn a degree but had little or no interaction with the college community and have no attachment whatsoever to the school. It&#8217;s been at least 5 years since I&#8217;ve seen or heard from anyone there. Obviously not everyone has the same college experience.</p>
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		<title>By: david foster</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39457</link>
		<dc:creator>david foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Hardis, then chairman &amp; CEO of Eaton Corporation (80,000 employees), said that he often experimented at cocktail parties â€” comparing the response he gets when he introduces himself by talking about his educational background (positive), vs. as the head of a big industrial company (negative)

â€œItâ€™s not only considered dull,â€ he says, â€œthereâ€™s an intellectual disdain for people who go into industrial America. Itâ€™s as if they canâ€™t make it in these other parts of the economy.â€

Something is very strange when a 50-year-old man finds there is more interest in his college years than in his present vast managerial responsibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Hardis, then chairman &amp; CEO of Eaton Corporation (80,000 employees), said that he often experimented at cocktail parties â€” comparing the response he gets when he introduces himself by talking about his educational background (positive), vs. as the head of a big industrial company (negative)</p>
<p>â€œItâ€™s not only considered dull,â€ he says, â€œthereâ€™s an intellectual disdain for people who go into industrial America. Itâ€™s as if they canâ€™t make it in these other parts of the economy.â€</p>
<p>Something is very strange when a 50-year-old man finds there is more interest in his college years than in his present vast managerial responsibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39456</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not even a feminist, yet I find the glaring sexist double standard appalling.  I know elitist snobbery is part of the strange attacks on Palin, but I do think simple sexism is the root of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not even a feminist, yet I find the glaring sexist double standard appalling.  I know elitist snobbery is part of the strange attacks on Palin, but I do think simple sexism is the root of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39455</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama might not be too terribly convincing telling others not to attack Gov. Palin&#039;s faith after he described people from fly-over country as bitter and clinging to their guns and religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama might not be too terribly convincing telling others not to attack Gov. Palin&#8217;s faith after he described people from fly-over country as bitter and clinging to their guns and religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Foobarista</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39454</link>
		<dc:creator>Foobarista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joycem: life happens.  My brother will finally graduate this year after six JCs and universities over fourteen years, mixed in with way too much &quot;life&quot;.  If he ever runs for VP, the &quot;press vetting&quot; of it wouldn&#039;t all be flattering, but much of it would be quite understandable.

And, to his credit, he won&#039;t have a dime of student loan debt.

Students who run through college in four uninterrupted years are far more the outlier than the norm nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joycem: life happens.  My brother will finally graduate this year after six JCs and universities over fourteen years, mixed in with way too much &#8220;life&#8221;.  If he ever runs for VP, the &#8220;press vetting&#8221; of it wouldn&#8217;t all be flattering, but much of it would be quite understandable.</p>
<p>And, to his credit, he won&#8217;t have a dime of student loan debt.</p>
<p>Students who run through college in four uninterrupted years are far more the outlier than the norm nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39453</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joycem said, &quot;A college is a college. However, itâ€™s suspicious to me when someone hops around a lot between colleges like Palin didâ€“whatâ€™s up with that?&quot;

Perhaps she was trying to find a college that was up to meeting her intellectual standards. They are hard to find nowadays, you know.

Joycem continued, &quot;Meanwhile, after the Newsweek cover that just came out, this liberal Democrat (from rural roots) who happens to live in a big city and who has spent more than a wee bit of time handling guns as a hunter, has to say that Palinâ€™s hunting creds are more than a wee bit suspicious to me.&quot;

Yes, this certainly merits an investigation. Because if she doesn&#039;t have &quot;hunting creds,&quot; this clearly disqualifies her for the office of Vice President. Let&#039;s hope that the MSM media investigates this right away. Oh, that investigation will have to wait? They&#039;re still busy trying to prove that she didn&#039;t wash her hands after using the bathroom.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joycem said, &#8220;A college is a college. However, itâ€™s suspicious to me when someone hops around a lot between colleges like Palin didâ€“whatâ€™s up with that?&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps she was trying to find a college that was up to meeting her intellectual standards. They are hard to find nowadays, you know.</p>
<p>Joycem continued, &#8220;Meanwhile, after the Newsweek cover that just came out, this liberal Democrat (from rural roots) who happens to live in a big city and who has spent more than a wee bit of time handling guns as a hunter, has to say that Palinâ€™s hunting creds are more than a wee bit suspicious to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, this certainly merits an investigation. Because if she doesn&#8217;t have &#8220;hunting creds,&#8221; this clearly disqualifies her for the office of Vice President. Let&#8217;s hope that the MSM media investigates this right away. Oh, that investigation will have to wait? They&#8217;re still busy trying to prove that she didn&#8217;t wash her hands after using the bathroom.</p>
<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction" rel="nofollow">http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction</a></p>
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		<title>By: bky</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/09/ivy-snobs/#comment-39452</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a snob about where someone went to school, only about what their major field of study was. Communications? That&#039;s not a real discipline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a snob about where someone went to school, only about what their major field of study was. Communications? That&#8217;s not a real discipline.</p>
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