Comments on: Pistol-packing teachers in Texas http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:51:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: SuperSub http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38844 SuperSub Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:37:35 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38844 Robert- Wouldn't Texas get props for shooting Kennedy since he got us involved in an unecessary, unending war? Robert-
Wouldn’t Texas get props for shooting Kennedy since he got us involved in an unecessary, unending war?

]]> By: Ragnarok http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38843 Ragnarok Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:26:39 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38843 Robert Wright said: <i>"Look, if I were allowed to carry a gun to class, there would be no such thing as missing homework."</i> Right, just missing kids, I presume? Good that CA is so much more progressive than Texas; they want their teachers to carry guns to protect the kids from attack, you want to carry one to make sure they turn in their homework. And you're more reasonable than most of the CA teachers, IMHO! Robert Wright said:

“Look, if I were allowed to carry a gun to class, there would be no such thing as missing homework.”

Right, just missing kids, I presume? Good that CA is so much more progressive than Texas; they want their teachers to carry guns to protect the kids from attack, you want to carry one to make sure they turn in their homework.

And you’re more reasonable than most of the CA teachers, IMHO!

]]> By: Robert Wright http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38842 Robert Wright Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:37:40 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38842 Ah, Texas. They gave us Mr. Bush, a failed baseball owner and an idiot, who got us into a costly, unnecessary unending war. They shot Kennedy and then Oswald. They named cities after racists. They raped and killed Mexican women to provoke a war for the purpose of stealing land. They allow teachers to carry guns. They allow students to skip on their homework. How backward can you get? Look, if I were allowed to carry a gun to class, there would be no such thing as missing homework. Ah, Texas.

They gave us Mr. Bush, a failed baseball owner and an idiot, who got us into a costly, unnecessary unending war.

They shot Kennedy and then Oswald.

They named cities after racists.

They raped and killed Mexican women to provoke a war for the purpose of stealing land.

They allow teachers to carry guns.

They allow students to skip on their homework.

How backward can you get?

Look, if I were allowed to carry a gun to class, there would be no such thing as missing homework.

]]> By: Andy Freeman http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38841 Andy Freeman Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:06:24 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38841 > And just for fun–what is the likelihood that armed teachers would diminish rather than increase the bloodbath in a Klebold and Harris situation. Interestingly enough, we have instances of "nutters" running into non-police carrying. The "not police" have stopped the nutters in some cases and have yet to make the problem worse. We also have experience with not-police carrying. Curiously, the predicted accident increase hasn't happened. Should we give greater weight to experience or to theory that contradicts it? > And just for fun–what is the likelihood that armed teachers would diminish rather than increase the bloodbath in a Klebold and Harris situation.

Interestingly enough, we have instances of “nutters” running into non-police carrying. The “not police” have stopped the nutters in some cases and have yet to make the problem worse.

We also have experience with not-police carrying. Curiously, the predicted accident increase hasn’t happened.

Should we give greater weight to experience or to theory that contradicts it?

]]> By: Margo/Mom http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38840 Margo/Mom Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:55:31 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38840 Still gotta go back to asking--which is more likely to happen, a Klebold and Harris situation, or a kid getting shot by accident when there are guns on site? (And just for fun--what is the likelihood that armed teachers would diminish rather than increase the bloodbath in a Klebold and Harris situation. Still gotta go back to asking–which is more likely to happen, a Klebold and Harris situation, or a kid getting shot by accident when there are guns on site? (And just for fun–what is the likelihood that armed teachers would diminish rather than increase the bloodbath in a Klebold and Harris situation.

]]> By: BadaBing http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38839 BadaBing Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:17:19 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38839 Rock on, holly. Rock on, holly.

]]> By: holly http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38838 holly Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:58:01 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38838 hall monitor, Imagine if the students shot were Klebold and Harris. Make a difference in how you see it? hall monitor,

Imagine if the students shot were Klebold and Harris. Make a difference in how you see it?

]]> By: hall monitor http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38837 hall monitor Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:37:23 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38837 I've been scratching my head all day trying to figure out what makes this a good idea. I just fear the headlines "Teacher shoots student." Hall Monitor http://detentionslip.org I’ve been scratching my head all day trying to figure out what makes this a good idea. I just fear the headlines “Teacher shoots student.”

Hall Monitor
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]]> By: Margo/Mom http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38836 Margo/Mom Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:11:12 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38836 Not sure what the grading policy in Dallas has to do with the gun policy in Harrold. My first thought about the gun policy is who are they going to shoot, rattlesnakes? Next, I would want someone to assure that the odds of being shot (or snake-bit, I suppose) by an intruder (I hope that they are not so out of touch with their 110 students as to suppose that this is where the danger lies) outweigh the odds of an accidental shooting from injecting approved firearms into the environment. Re: the grading policy--it looks like someone is saying loud and clear that there should be some consistency to what grades communicate--and that they should be indicators first of what students have learned about the content, rather than other things (promptness, follow through, attitude, etc). It's too bad that the "professionals" (that would be the teachers) are determined to undermine this. Not sure what the grading policy in Dallas has to do with the gun policy in Harrold. My first thought about the gun policy is who are they going to shoot, rattlesnakes? Next, I would want someone to assure that the odds of being shot (or snake-bit, I suppose) by an intruder (I hope that they are not so out of touch with their 110 students as to suppose that this is where the danger lies) outweigh the odds of an accidental shooting from injecting approved firearms into the environment.

Re: the grading policy–it looks like someone is saying loud and clear that there should be some consistency to what grades communicate–and that they should be indicators first of what students have learned about the content, rather than other things (promptness, follow through, attitude, etc). It’s too bad that the “professionals” (that would be the teachers) are determined to undermine this.

]]> By: Michael Tinkler http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/pistol-packing-teachers-in-texas/#comment-38835 Michael Tinkler Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:28:37 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5755#comment-38835 I remember a survey of teachers done while I was teahing (Latin, part time) in the Atlanta city school system. It asked if you felt unsafe because other teachers were packing. I looked up in shock at the other folks in the lounge and asked "are some people carrying guns?" They quickly told me who. It was typically folks who had ticket window cash responsibility for sporting events, but there were some people who just carried. I remember a survey of teachers done while I was teahing (Latin, part time) in the Atlanta city school system. It asked if you felt unsafe because other teachers were packing.

I looked up in shock at the other folks in the lounge and asked “are some people carrying guns?” They quickly told me who. It was typically folks who had ticket window cash responsibility for sporting events, but there were some people who just carried.

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