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	<title>Comments on: Legislating history curriculum</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Leonard</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/legislating-history-curriculum/#comment-38452</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wonder how many Americans that have gone through the K-12 school system since 1965 have actually read the Federalist Papers, the U.S. Constitution, famous Supreme Court cases, and the rest of U.S. History that used to be standard in high school curriculums.&quot;

You have said it all, Wolf.

The plain fact is, US history during the Civil War period (as one example), is no longer about the underlying causes; about Lincoln and Davis, Grant and Lee, or any of their major lieutentants. It is all about Sojourner Truth and Harriet Tubman.

And that&#039;s dangerious, frankly.

To extrapolate: is anyone really surprised that these days,  people with any modicum of education and sophistication get their kids into charter schools or private schools?

And do any of you teachers and administrators out there understand that, until you cure at least some of your major problems, those parents with any modicum of education and sophistication will continue to seek other alternatives?

Or will you contine to adhere to the public school union and administration line?

If this makes you angry, consider the outrage of those, like me, in their mid-60s,who have watched, decade by decade, the systematic failure of the public school system in this country.

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder how many Americans that have gone through the K-12 school system since 1965 have actually read the Federalist Papers, the U.S. Constitution, famous Supreme Court cases, and the rest of U.S. History that used to be standard in high school curriculums.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have said it all, Wolf.</p>
<p>The plain fact is, US history during the Civil War period (as one example), is no longer about the underlying causes; about Lincoln and Davis, Grant and Lee, or any of their major lieutentants. It is all about Sojourner Truth and Harriet Tubman.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s dangerious, frankly.</p>
<p>To extrapolate: is anyone really surprised that these days,  people with any modicum of education and sophistication get their kids into charter schools or private schools?</p>
<p>And do any of you teachers and administrators out there understand that, until you cure at least some of your major problems, those parents with any modicum of education and sophistication will continue to seek other alternatives?</p>
<p>Or will you contine to adhere to the public school union and administration line?</p>
<p>If this makes you angry, consider the outrage of those, like me, in their mid-60s,who have watched, decade by decade, the systematic failure of the public school system in this country.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf 359 Vet</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/legislating-history-curriculum/#comment-38451</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf 359 Vet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 05:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many Americans that have gone through the K-12 school system since 1965 have actually read the Federalist Papers, the U.S. Constitution, famous Supreme Court cases, and the rest of U.S. History that used to be standard in high school curriculums.

There&#039;s nothing wrong with learning &quot;the little details&quot; of history - those are often the ones that make it the most interesting - but you have to know history in general first. For example, no matter how much you might wish it were so, Marilyn Monroe&#039;s part in U.S. History will never be as big as Abraham Lincoln&#039;s part in U.S. History...</description>
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<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with learning &#8220;the little details&#8221; of history &#8211; those are often the ones that make it the most interesting &#8211; but you have to know history in general first. For example, no matter how much you might wish it were so, Marilyn Monroe&#8217;s part in U.S. History will never be as big as Abraham Lincoln&#8217;s part in U.S. History&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: allen</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/legislating-history-curriculum/#comment-38450</link>
		<dc:creator>allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised.  I would have thought the first history bill that they would have passed is one that outlawed teaching kids any of the details of their own past legislative endeavors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised.  I would have thought the first history bill that they would have passed is one that outlawed teaching kids any of the details of their own past legislative endeavors.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we could teach them that legislator&#039;s elevators still have operators just to make sure common folk do not attempt to ride with them, or that Willie Brown got away with crap no white politician would have, just by riding the white guilt horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we could teach them that legislator&#8217;s elevators still have operators just to make sure common folk do not attempt to ride with them, or that Willie Brown got away with crap no white politician would have, just by riding the white guilt horse.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/legislating-history-curriculum/#comment-38447</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad link?

Seems like a relatively harmless way for the California legislature to spend its time. Most things they do are far more expensive and harmful.

He who pays the piper calls the tune.</description>
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<p>Seems like a relatively harmless way for the California legislature to spend its time. Most things they do are far more expensive and harmful.</p>
<p>He who pays the piper calls the tune.</p>
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