Comments on: After disaster http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:47:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: Reality Czech http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/#comment-38909 Reality Czech Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:44:10 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5759#comment-38909 Or, perhaps, why should we pay to try? Or, perhaps, why should we pay to try?

]]> By: Andy Freeman http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/#comment-38908 Andy Freeman Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:09:02 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5759#comment-38908 > The entire focus appears to be on the schools and their staff. Nobody wants to mention the students, their parents or the wider culture. If teachers can't teach these students, regardless of the reason, why should we pay them to try? > The entire focus appears to be on the schools and their staff. Nobody wants to mention the students, their parents or the wider culture.

If teachers can’t teach these students, regardless of the reason, why should we pay them to try?

]]> By: Wolf 359 Vet http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/#comment-38907 Wolf 359 Vet Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:22:42 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5759#comment-38907 Who would want to be a K-12 teacher these days? Especially in New Orleans, LA. The students' and parents' cultures and approaches to education are irrelevant, and if the students don't learn, it's somehow your fault, even though you can't make students do anything or punish students when they don't do as instructed? The U.S. needs to rediscover its roots as a country with a culture that places a high priority on education, and fast, or we're going to be a "Third World" country in a few generations. (The transition from "First World" to "Third World" has already started now, in fact.) Who would want to be a K-12 teacher these days? Especially in New Orleans, LA. The students’ and parents’ cultures and approaches to education are irrelevant, and if the students don’t learn, it’s somehow your fault, even though you can’t make students do anything or punish students when they don’t do as instructed?

The U.S. needs to rediscover its roots as a country with a culture that places a high priority on education, and fast, or we’re going to be a “Third World” country in a few generations. (The transition from “First World” to “Third World” has already started now, in fact.)

]]> By: GoogleMaster http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/#comment-38906 GoogleMaster Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:35:15 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5759#comment-38906 Those who have a spare weekend to spend reading blogs might be interested in <a href="http://msfriendly.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Ms.Friendly’s Comprehensive Guide to Inner-City Teaching</a>. I'm not sure what city she's in, but it sure sounds like NOLA. Start with entry #1 and read forward. It was quite eye-opening. Those who have a spare weekend to spend reading blogs might be interested in Ms.Friendly’s Comprehensive Guide to Inner-City Teaching. I’m not sure what city she’s in, but it sure sounds like NOLA. Start with entry #1 and read forward. It was quite eye-opening.

]]> By: MTheads http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/#comment-38905 MTheads Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:39:40 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5759#comment-38905 What can state and local superintendents possibly do about students, parents and the culture? And it is disingenuous to state that children from failing schools would be given the boot. It sounds like failure would be blamed on the schools and the schools would be reorganized or given over to another group to run. Of course, plenty of people want the blame squarely on the the students, parents and the culture since then teachers and schools wouldn't have to change. What can state and local superintendents possibly do about students, parents and the culture? And it is disingenuous to state that children from failing schools would be given the boot. It sounds like failure would be blamed on the schools and the schools would be reorganized or given over to another group to run. Of course, plenty of people want the blame squarely on the the students, parents and the culture since then teachers and schools wouldn’t have to change.

]]> By: allen http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/#comment-38904 allen Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:46:22 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5759#comment-38904 > And hope that the failures of others do not cost them their jobs. Well there's a nice symmetry: kids no has any expectations of should be taught by teachers no one has any expectations of. > And hope that the failures of others do not cost them their jobs.

Well there’s a nice symmetry: kids no has any expectations of should be taught by teachers no one has any expectations of.

]]> By: Reality Czech http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/#comment-38903 Reality Czech Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:08:44 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5759#comment-38903 <blockquote>Provide them with good teachers and good discipline and hope their parents don’t undermine it all is the best they can do.</blockquote>And hope that the failures of others do not cost them their jobs.

Provide them with good teachers and good discipline and hope their parents don’t undermine it all is the best they can do.

And hope that the failures of others do not cost them their jobs.

]]> By: Jason Bontrager http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/#comment-38902 Jason Bontrager Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:17:28 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5759#comment-38902 There's only so much the State can do, and only so much it can legitimately intrude upon. The kids and their families are really outside the purview of the State, at least when the kids themselves are not on the school premises. Provide them with good teachers and good discipline and hope their parents don't undermine it all is the best they can do. There’s only so much the State can do, and only so much it can legitimately intrude upon. The kids and their families are really outside the purview of the State, at least when the kids themselves are not on the school premises. Provide them with good teachers and good discipline and hope their parents don’t undermine it all is the best they can do.

]]> By: Reality Czech http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/08/after-disaster/#comment-38901 Reality Czech Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:33:47 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/?p=5759#comment-38901 The entire focus appears to be on the schools and their staff. Nobody wants to mention the students, their parents or the wider culture. It appears likely that the former students of failed schools will be undesirable and may become "homeless", as no other school would want them and the likely designation of failure which comes with them. The entire focus appears to be on the schools and their staff. Nobody wants to mention the students, their parents or the wider culture.

It appears likely that the former students of failed schools will be undesirable and may become “homeless”, as no other school would want them and the likely designation of failure which comes with them.

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