Comments on: Teachers defend death hoax http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:51:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jen http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36973 Jen Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:48:56 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/06/14/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36973 How cruel! At least five times over the past five years, some of our students have arrived at school to hear that a classmate has died...once on the first day back from Christmas break...it's horribly irresponsible to play with students' emotions like this and can only breed mistrust. Kudos to the kids with the "death is real" signs at the assembly. How cruel! At least five times over the past five years, some of our students have arrived at school to hear that a classmate has died…once on the first day back from Christmas break…it’s horribly irresponsible to play with students’ emotions like this and can only breed mistrust. Kudos to the kids with the “death is real” signs at the assembly.

]]> By: dave http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36972 dave Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:00:29 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/06/14/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36972 how about calling up one of the teachers and telling them that their spouse dropped dead of a heart attack. after a few hours, tell them "hahaha, just kidding. just wanted to persuade you of the consequences of obesity." the teachers and administrators at this school no doubt engage in lots of unhealthy, risky behaviors too, so why not use the same tough love on them;) how about calling up one of the teachers and telling them that their spouse dropped dead of a heart attack. after a few hours, tell them “hahaha, just kidding. just wanted to persuade you of the consequences of obesity.” the teachers and administrators at this school no doubt engage in lots of unhealthy, risky behaviors too, so why not use the same tough love on them;)

]]> By: Margo/Mom http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36971 Margo/Mom Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:38:29 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/06/14/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36971 If this were a research experiment, it wouldn't get past the IRB. It's unethical. If this were a research experiment, it wouldn’t get past the IRB. It’s unethical.

]]> By: Outside The Beltway | OTB http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36970 Outside The Beltway | OTB Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:33:05 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/06/14/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36970 <strong>Police Stage Deaths to Scare Teens About Drunk Driving...</strong> Some San Diego students got a harsh lesson about drunk driving recently. On a Monday morning last month, California Highway Patrol officers visited 20 classrooms at El Camino High School to announce some horrible news: Students had been killed in car... Police Stage Deaths to Scare Teens About Drunk Driving…

Some San Diego students got a harsh lesson about drunk driving recently.
On a Monday morning last month, California Highway Patrol officers visited 20 classrooms at El Camino High School to announce some horrible news: Students had been killed in car…

]]> By: Scared straight or just dumb? http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36969 Scared straight or just dumb? Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:53:27 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/06/14/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36969 [...] Hat tip- Joanne Jacobs [...] [...] Hat tip- Joanne Jacobs [...]

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]]> By: Brian Rude http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36967 Brian Rude Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:49:02 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/06/14/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36967 I second wahoofive’s statement that “the lesson isn’t (or shouldn’t be) about underage drinking, but about DUI.” I have wondered in the last year or so if we are not confusing means and ends. Preventing unsafe driving is obviously a worthy end? Is prohibition of underage drinking a means to that end? I don’t know. Maybe it is counterproductive. I don’t remember hearing about binge drinking in the 80’s and 90’s like we hear about it now. Have we inadvertently increased the “forbidden fruit” tempation? I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a very important question. I second wahoofive’s statement that “the lesson isn’t (or shouldn’t be) about underage drinking, but about DUI.” I have wondered in the last year or so if we are not confusing means and ends. Preventing unsafe driving is obviously a worthy end? Is prohibition of underage drinking a means to that end? I don’t know. Maybe it is counterproductive. I don’t remember hearing about binge drinking in the 80’s and 90’s like we hear about it now. Have we inadvertently increased the “forbidden fruit” tempation? I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a very important question.

]]> By: wahoofive http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36966 wahoofive Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:54:19 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/06/14/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36966 As for Los Gatos, 2003 is an infinitely long time ago to a high school student. And the lesson isn't (or shouldn't be) about underage drinking, but about DUI. As for Los Gatos, 2003 is an infinitely long time ago to a high school student. And the lesson isn’t (or shouldn’t be) about underage drinking, but about DUI.

]]> By: Michael Umphrey http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36965 Michael Umphrey Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:20:55 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/06/14/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36965 Education should be about truth in somewhat the way medicine should be about health. My version of the "Hippocratic Oath" for teachers would be "Never tell a fib." For a while, I thought it should be "Always tell the truth," but that's too high a standard, because to tell the truth we must know the truth and often that's beyond our grasp. But we always know when we are lying, and those educators intentionally fabricated a fib because--because. . . I don't know. They thought they served a higher ideal than the truth, I guess. Bad mistake. Education should be about truth in somewhat the way medicine should be about health. My version of the “Hippocratic Oath” for teachers would be “Never tell a fib.”

For a while, I thought it should be “Always tell the truth,” but that’s too high a standard, because to tell the truth we must know the truth and often that’s beyond our grasp. But we always know when we are lying, and those educators intentionally fabricated a fib because–because. . .

I don’t know. They thought they served a higher ideal than the truth, I guess. Bad mistake.

]]> By: Quincy http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36964 Quincy Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:28:28 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/06/14/teachers-defend-death-hoax/#comment-36964 "Don’t these people think that kids have feelings?" Well, I'm sure they are quite aware the kids have feelings, since they were deliberately manipulating them. As for actually respecting the kids, which is where I think you're going, they sound like standard nanny-state types who see normal people as things to be beaten into shape, no matter how disgusting the method. “Don’t these people think that kids have feelings?”

Well, I’m sure they are quite aware the kids have feelings, since they were deliberately manipulating them. As for actually respecting the kids, which is where I think you’re going, they sound like standard nanny-state types who see normal people as things to be beaten into shape, no matter how disgusting the method.

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