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	<title>Comments on: Keepin&#039; it gutter at Douglass High</title>
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		<title>By: Amritas</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/keepin-it-gutter-at-douglass-high/#comment-37467</link>
		<dc:creator>Amritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would Frederick Douglass have thought of this?

I usually don&#039;t like invoking historical figures.  It&#039;s usually a ploy to imply the writer is &quot;right&quot; because he thinks a famous person would have agreed with him, even though that might be debatable.  However, I don&#039;t think anyone can doubt how much Douglass valued education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would Frederick Douglass have thought of this?</p>
<p>I usually don&#8217;t like invoking historical figures.  It&#8217;s usually a ploy to imply the writer is &#8220;right&#8221; because he thinks a famous person would have agreed with him, even though that might be debatable.  However, I don&#8217;t think anyone can doubt how much Douglass valued education.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/keepin-it-gutter-at-douglass-high/#comment-37466</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, you&#039;ll understand the legal situation if you make that the Democrat People&#039;s Republic of Maryland, a Taxachusetts wannabe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you&#8217;ll understand the legal situation if you make that the Democrat People&#8217;s Republic of Maryland, a Taxachusetts wannabe.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo/Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/keepin-it-gutter-at-douglass-high/#comment-37465</link>
		<dc:creator>Margo/Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Toss that many kids out and the state will label you a failure based just on the number of expulsions.&quot;

Pretty hard to make a case for the success of Douglass--with or without Audie. But again--he&#039;s not taking, or receiving anything. Some might say that by hanging out in the hallways he&#039;s actually helping to finance the kids in the classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Toss that many kids out and the state will label you a failure based just on the number of expulsions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty hard to make a case for the success of Douglass&#8211;with or without Audie. But again&#8211;he&#8217;s not taking, or receiving anything. Some might say that by hanging out in the hallways he&#8217;s actually helping to finance the kids in the classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/keepin-it-gutter-at-douglass-high/#comment-37464</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Margo/Mom,

This kid is old enough to recognize right from wrong and chooses to do wrong.  In doing so he chooses to reject the free education he could be getting and disrupt the education of others.

His right to act as he please shouldn&#039;t supercede the rights of others to learn.

I don&#039;t know the law for Maryland, but here in Texas the Joe Clark style of cleaing house of the troublemakers couldn&#039;t be done.  Toss that many kids out and the state will label you a failure based just on the number of expulsions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margo/Mom,</p>
<p>This kid is old enough to recognize right from wrong and chooses to do wrong.  In doing so he chooses to reject the free education he could be getting and disrupt the education of others.</p>
<p>His right to act as he please shouldn&#8217;t supercede the rights of others to learn.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the law for Maryland, but here in Texas the Joe Clark style of cleaing house of the troublemakers couldn&#8217;t be done.  Toss that many kids out and the state will label you a failure based just on the number of expulsions.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo/Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/keepin-it-gutter-at-douglass-high/#comment-37463</link>
		<dc:creator>Margo/Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Mike--Audie&#039;s not gettin&#039; nuthin&#039;. Not an education, not the 14K (or so) that has been allocated for it. See--here&#039;s how it works--and why it&#039;s easier to ignore the Audies wandering the halls. The district is getting $ from the state based on enrollment. Audie is enrolled, and apparently shows up often enough (and presumably during the count week) that the state assumes that he is a student. Say he is placed in classes of about 30 students--and the teachers pretty much believe that anything over 25 is overwhelming. When five out of the 30 don&#039;t make it into the room, their day is made. Sorry Charlie (or Apologies Audie).

Now Audie has probably counted that minimally in school for a long time--although he may actually have occupied a seat at a younger age. Do you ever wonder why Audie shows up at all?

So, along comes HBO, filming this pathetic situation--a high school where the kids can&#039;t read--and the adults aren&#039;t outraged that this is so. This is the pathetic life led by these pathetic ghetto kids. Do you hang your head and tell American what a pathetic victim you are, or do you put on a little braggadocio and claim you meant to do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Mike&#8211;Audie&#8217;s not gettin&#8217; nuthin&#8217;. Not an education, not the 14K (or so) that has been allocated for it. See&#8211;here&#8217;s how it works&#8211;and why it&#8217;s easier to ignore the Audies wandering the halls. The district is getting $ from the state based on enrollment. Audie is enrolled, and apparently shows up often enough (and presumably during the count week) that the state assumes that he is a student. Say he is placed in classes of about 30 students&#8211;and the teachers pretty much believe that anything over 25 is overwhelming. When five out of the 30 don&#8217;t make it into the room, their day is made. Sorry Charlie (or Apologies Audie).</p>
<p>Now Audie has probably counted that minimally in school for a long time&#8211;although he may actually have occupied a seat at a younger age. Do you ever wonder why Audie shows up at all?</p>
<p>So, along comes HBO, filming this pathetic situation&#8211;a high school where the kids can&#8217;t read&#8211;and the adults aren&#8217;t outraged that this is so. This is the pathetic life led by these pathetic ghetto kids. Do you hang your head and tell American what a pathetic victim you are, or do you put on a little braggadocio and claim you meant to do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/keepin-it-gutter-at-douglass-high/#comment-37462</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;[Bleep] class. That [bleepâ€™s] for clowns, man. Donâ€™t nobody go to class around here, man. Man, [bleep] academics. Academics? We gonâ€™ leave that to them nerd-[bleep] [bleeps]. We gonâ€™ keep [bleep] straight â€˜hood. All my [bleeps] out here, we gonâ€™ keep it gutter.â€&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve watched the program and what this school needs is a &lt;i&gt;Lean On Me/Joe Clark&lt;/i&gt; type housecleaning.

If I were king of the world behavior of this type would be criminalized, Audie would be thrown in jail so fast his head would spin.

Not sure what the amount spent per student at this school is, but let&#039;s say it&#039;s in the high range, 14K.  Audie is effectively stealing that money from the taxpayers by refusing to learn and refusing to behave in a civilized manner.  What&#039;s worse is the little thug is also disrupting the learning of others, so the waste of money he is causing is even higher.

Throw him in jail, save the taxpayers some time and money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>[Bleep] class. That [bleepâ€™s] for clowns, man. Donâ€™t nobody go to class around here, man. Man, [bleep] academics. Academics? We gonâ€™ leave that to them nerd-[bleep] [bleeps]. We gonâ€™ keep [bleep] straight â€˜hood. All my [bleeps] out here, we gonâ€™ keep it gutter.â€</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve watched the program and what this school needs is a <i>Lean On Me/Joe Clark</i> type housecleaning.</p>
<p>If I were king of the world behavior of this type would be criminalized, Audie would be thrown in jail so fast his head would spin.</p>
<p>Not sure what the amount spent per student at this school is, but let&#8217;s say it&#8217;s in the high range, 14K.  Audie is effectively stealing that money from the taxpayers by refusing to learn and refusing to behave in a civilized manner.  What&#8217;s worse is the little thug is also disrupting the learning of others, so the waste of money he is causing is even higher.</p>
<p>Throw him in jail, save the taxpayers some time and money.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo/Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margo/Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NCLB does target middle schools and elementary schools. The fact that HBO chose to look at a high school is not an indicator of NCLB focus. As well, NCLB cannot really undo a high level of commitment to substandard education. Baltimore made news when their &quot;turnaround experts&quot; did not show any impact. It turns out that their &quot;experts&quot; were simply retired principals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NCLB does target middle schools and elementary schools. The fact that HBO chose to look at a high school is not an indicator of NCLB focus. As well, NCLB cannot really undo a high level of commitment to substandard education. Baltimore made news when their &#8220;turnaround experts&#8221; did not show any impact. It turns out that their &#8220;experts&#8221; were simply retired principals.</p>
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		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/keepin-it-gutter-at-douglass-high/#comment-37460</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously the solution can be found in increased funding for teachers salaries and professional training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the solution can be found in increased funding for teachers salaries and professional training.</p>
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		<title>By: mollo</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/keepin-it-gutter-at-douglass-high/#comment-37459</link>
		<dc:creator>mollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would NCLB target only the high school?  Obviously the teaching failings would be showing up in the elementary and middle school levels too.  Why aren&#039;t we hearing about middle schools being taken apart by NCLB also?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would NCLB target only the high school?  Obviously the teaching failings would be showing up in the elementary and middle school levels too.  Why aren&#8217;t we hearing about middle schools being taken apart by NCLB also?</p>
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		<title>By: BadaBing</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2008/06/keepin-it-gutter-at-douglass-high/#comment-37458</link>
		<dc:creator>BadaBing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the mayor of Baltimore is &quot;keepin&#039; it gutter&quot; at the top with sex and financial scandal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the mayor of Baltimore is &#8220;keepin&#8217; it gutter&#8221; at the top with sex and financial scandal.</p>
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