Comments on: No comparison http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/08/no-comparison/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:28:29 +0000 hourly 1 By: No comparison at Joanne Jacobs « Beach Blurb http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/08/no-comparison/#comment-35196 No comparison at Joanne Jacobs « Beach Blurb Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:19:01 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/08/10/no-comparison/#comment-35196 [...] comparison at Joanne Jacobs No comparison at Joanne Jacobs How do advanced math and physics students in the U.S. compare to 12th graders in other countries? [...] [...] comparison at Joanne Jacobs No comparison at Joanne Jacobs How do advanced math and physics students in the U.S. compare to 12th graders in other countries? [...]

]]> By: Peter http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/08/no-comparison/#comment-35195 Peter Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:39:55 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/08/10/no-comparison/#comment-35195 Its is fact that we are lacking in some kind of resource or knowledge in mathematics. That is why we are outsourcing teachers from Asian countries, to teach our children's via net... <a href="http://www.orchardconservatories.co.uk" rel="nofollow">conservatories itv</a> Its is fact that we are lacking in some kind of resource or knowledge in mathematics. That is why we are outsourcing teachers from Asian countries, to teach our children’s via net…
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]]> By: Ragnarok http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/08/no-comparison/#comment-35194 Ragnarok Sun, 12 Aug 2007 05:36:34 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/08/10/no-comparison/#comment-35194 What's so hard about doing 37x23 in your head? Maybe Bush can't do it, but surely the highly-trained teachers can, don't you think, Bell Work Online? What’s so hard about doing 37×23 in your head? Maybe Bush can’t do it, but surely the highly-trained teachers can, don’t you think, Bell Work Online?

]]> By: Catch Thirty-Thr33 http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/08/no-comparison/#comment-35193 Catch Thirty-Thr33 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 03:33:39 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/08/10/no-comparison/#comment-35193 Oh, you mean he sidesteps, as does virtually ANY politician? What a complete shock!!! Oh, you mean he sidesteps, as does virtually ANY politician? What a complete shock!!!

]]> By: Bell Work Online http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/08/no-comparison/#comment-35192 Bell Work Online Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:39:00 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/08/10/no-comparison/#comment-35192 As much as I dislike President Bush, I disagree that we should as questions like, what's 37 times 23. As usual, though, Bush sidesteps the question, in the same bumbling manner, in which he dodges most important issues. As much as I dislike President Bush, I disagree that we should as questions like, what’s 37 times 23. As usual, though, Bush sidesteps the question, in the same bumbling manner, in which he dodges most important issues.

]]> By: Myrtle http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/08/no-comparison/#comment-35191 Myrtle Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:58:29 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/08/10/no-comparison/#comment-35191 There aren't 12th graders in many other countries. In Singapore you graduate at 16 and then go to junior college. Don't know how this works out with other TIMMS participants. There aren’t 12th graders in many other countries. In Singapore you graduate at 16 and then go to junior college. Don’t know how this works out with other TIMMS participants.

]]> By: Miller Smith http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/08/no-comparison/#comment-35190 Miller Smith Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:21:38 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/08/10/no-comparison/#comment-35190 Hi Bob, The comparison is of OUR advanced math and physics students in the U.S. to 12th graders in other countries. This is a very importqant point to make. Our BEST and TOP math and science students get beat out by the AVERAGE students of other countries. When we compare our TOP to their TOP we look like a bunch of idiots. It is very common for the top students from my school system to have to take remedial math classes when they enter college. Hi Bob,
The comparison is of OUR advanced math and physics students in the U.S. to 12th graders in other countries. This is a very importqant point to make. Our BEST and TOP math and science students get beat out by the AVERAGE students of other countries. When we compare our TOP to their TOP we look like a bunch of idiots.

It is very common for the top students from my school system to have to take remedial math classes when they enter college.

]]> By: Bob Diethrich http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/08/no-comparison/#comment-35189 Bob Diethrich Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:57:06 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/08/10/no-comparison/#comment-35189 Comparisons between the performances of US students and their counterparts around the world are usually worthless for one reason. Most European schools still "ability group" or "track" their students. For instance in Germany, students take a battery of tests around the fifth grade, and based on the results, you are either headed for university or the factory. (God help the late bloomer in those countries). So basically a good majoriy of our high school students, taking such classes as Algebra II, Chemistry and Physics, just to graduate are being compared to the college bound elite in those other countries. Considering that handicap, I think we are doing remarkably well. Comparisons between the performances of US students and their counterparts around the world are usually worthless for one reason. Most European schools still “ability group” or “track” their students. For instance in Germany, students take a battery of tests around the fifth grade, and based on the results, you are either headed for university or the factory. (God help the late bloomer in those countries). So basically a good majoriy of our high school students, taking such classes as Algebra II, Chemistry and Physics, just to graduate are being compared to the college bound elite in those other countries. Considering that handicap, I think we are doing remarkably well.

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