Comments on: Untested, untaught http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/07/untested-untaught/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:37:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: ‘Tested’ on Britannica at Joanne Jacobs http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/07/untested-untaught/#comment-34899 ‘Tested’ on Britannica at Joanne Jacobs Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:12:40 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/07/25/untested-untaught/#comment-34899 [...] of elementary schools spend less time on science, social studies and other untested subjects, reports The Center on Education Policy.) Only in the last few months of the school year, after the MSA is [...] [...] of elementary schools spend less time on science, social studies and other untested subjects, reports The Center on Education Policy.) Only in the last few months of the school year, after the MSA is [...]

]]> By: LayLo http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/07/untested-untaught/#comment-34898 LayLo Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:46:50 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/07/25/untested-untaught/#comment-34898 Many home-schoolers do combine history and reading and other language arts. My kids' literature reading provides the bulk of their history studies... and they love it that way. History through literature is far more interesting. Many home-schoolers do combine history and reading and other language arts. My kids’ literature reading provides the bulk of their history studies… and they love it that way. History through literature is far more interesting.

]]> By: allen http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/07/untested-untaught/#comment-34897 allen Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:50:41 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/07/25/untested-untaught/#comment-34897 At least someone's counting the damned birds now. > Anyone know why this doesn’t seem to happen? The transition from no accountability to accountability is a tough one. What used to be an unattainable height is now the minimum that's acceptable. To make that transition is going to require different ways of thinking about things that never required much thought at all. Efficient use of time for one. Time that can be used efficiently for a second. What's sacred about X number of class periods per day? Is that the best way to make learning happen? Maybe one or two class periods provides better continuity and greater learning. It starts to matter when measurements are being taken and coming up short is not an option. Can you coordinate classes so that what's learned in one class is put to use in another instead each class being on a separate educational planet? Can homework be similarly coordinated? They become questions worth answering when there are consequences. Now they're not asked because the administrative headaches remove the question from consideration. The administrative tail wags the educational dog. Not a good relationship if getting anywhere is important. At least someone’s counting the damned birds now.

> Anyone know why this doesn’t seem to happen?

The transition from no accountability to accountability is a tough one. What used to be an unattainable height is now the minimum that’s acceptable. To make that transition is going to require different ways of thinking about things that never required much thought at all.

Efficient use of time for one. Time that can be used efficiently for a second.

What’s sacred about X number of class periods per day? Is that the best way to make learning happen? Maybe one or two class periods provides better continuity and greater learning. It starts to matter when measurements are being taken and coming up short is not an option.

Can you coordinate classes so that what’s learned in one class is put to use in another instead each class being on a separate educational planet? Can homework be similarly coordinated?

They become questions worth answering when there are consequences. Now they’re not asked because the administrative headaches remove the question from consideration. The administrative tail wags the educational dog.

Not a good relationship if getting anywhere is important.

]]> By: Mark Roulo http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/07/untested-untaught/#comment-34896 Mark Roulo Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:28:55 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/07/25/untested-untaught/#comment-34896 I get the impression that this doesn't happen often, but .. . what if the reading instruction used texts about ... history? Kill two birds with one stone. It isn't like there isn't a lot of interesting history to read about. Anyone know why this doesn't seem to happen? -Mark R. I get the impression that this doesn’t happen often,
but .. . what if the reading instruction used texts about
… history? Kill two birds with one stone. It isn’t
like there isn’t a lot of interesting history to read
about.

Anyone know why this doesn’t seem to happen?

-Mark R.

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