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	<title>Comments on: Mindful students</title>
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		<title>By: Silly Old Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/06/mindful-students/#comment-34154</link>
		<dc:creator>Silly Old Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Cardinal Fang:

From the NY Times article... &quot;This is what is known as mindfulness training, in which stress-reducing techniques &lt;i&gt;drawn from Buddhist meditation&lt;/i&gt; are wedged between reading and spelling tests.&quot;

(snip)

&quot;Midge Kinder, &lt;i&gt;a yoga teacher,&lt;/i&gt; and her husband, Rick, started the program&quot; in Lancaster, PA. People don&#039;t think the program is doing something &quot;religious&quot; because hey, doesn&#039;t everyone take yoga at the local gym? It&#039;s not like 24-Hour Fitness has a Christian prayer class. :snort: 

You get a lot more buy-in from parents and administrators when you tell them it&#039;s all about helping kids get along, as opposed to saying, &quot;We&#039;re going to train your kids in Hindu and Buddhist practices twice a week.&quot; Let&#039;s see how far an evangelical pastor gets with a character ed program based on New Testament ideas. The powers that be wouldn&#039;t let his shadow darken the schoolhouse doorway.

Did you see the picture of the &quot;instruments&quot; the kids are given to use during these sessions? Are you gonna tell me that those tools are secular inventions? Puh-leeze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Cardinal Fang:</p>
<p>From the NY Times article&#8230; &#8220;This is what is known as mindfulness training, in which stress-reducing techniques <i>drawn from Buddhist meditation</i> are wedged between reading and spelling tests.&#8221;</p>
<p>(snip)</p>
<p>&#8220;Midge Kinder, <i>a yoga teacher,</i> and her husband, Rick, started the program&#8221; in Lancaster, PA. People don&#8217;t think the program is doing something &#8220;religious&#8221; because hey, doesn&#8217;t everyone take yoga at the local gym? It&#8217;s not like 24-Hour Fitness has a Christian prayer class. :snort: </p>
<p>You get a lot more buy-in from parents and administrators when you tell them it&#8217;s all about helping kids get along, as opposed to saying, &#8220;We&#8217;re going to train your kids in Hindu and Buddhist practices twice a week.&#8221; Let&#8217;s see how far an evangelical pastor gets with a character ed program based on New Testament ideas. The powers that be wouldn&#8217;t let his shadow darken the schoolhouse doorway.</p>
<p>Did you see the picture of the &#8220;instruments&#8221; the kids are given to use during these sessions? Are you gonna tell me that those tools are secular inventions? Puh-leeze.</p>
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		<title>By: NDC</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/06/mindful-students/#comment-34153</link>
		<dc:creator>NDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hum, I wonder which state the Mindfulness Awareness Research Center is located in?

(Believe me, I&#039;m just kidding. My state is certainly not the model of cultural ascension.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hum, I wonder which state the Mindfulness Awareness Research Center is located in?</p>
<p>(Believe me, I&#8217;m just kidding. My state is certainly not the model of cultural ascension.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cardinal Fang</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/06/mindful-students/#comment-34152</link>
		<dc:creator>Cardinal Fang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the kind of thing the yoga teacher is teaching: relaxation, reflection, sitting quietly without moving, thinking before acting, listening to chimes, breathing deeply. That&#039;s not government endorsement of religion because that&#039;s no more religion than a kindergarten nap.

On the other hand, school sponsored prayer to the Christian God, or indeed to any god or gods,  is religion. 

There are some ambiguous cases, but this isn&#039;t one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the kind of thing the yoga teacher is teaching: relaxation, reflection, sitting quietly without moving, thinking before acting, listening to chimes, breathing deeply. That&#8217;s not government endorsement of religion because that&#8217;s no more religion than a kindergarten nap.</p>
<p>On the other hand, school sponsored prayer to the Christian God, or indeed to any god or gods,  is religion. </p>
<p>There are some ambiguous cases, but this isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Silly Old Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/06/mindful-students/#comment-34151</link>
		<dc:creator>Silly Old Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Tibetan bowls and talk yoga are fine and dandy, but &quot;moments of silence&quot; and student prayer are not? Doesn&#039;t this fall under &quot;government endorsement of religion?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Tibetan bowls and talk yoga are fine and dandy, but &#8220;moments of silence&#8221; and student prayer are not? Doesn&#8217;t this fall under &#8220;government endorsement of religion?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Obi-Wandreas</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/06/mindful-students/#comment-34150</link>
		<dc:creator>Obi-Wandreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Be mindful&quot;

That&#039;s always the advice given by Jedi &amp; Sith to their apprentices.

&quot;Be mindful of your feelings, young Skywalker&quot;

&quot;Lord Maul, be mindful. Let them make the first move&quot;

&quot;Be mindful, Billy.  Truancy; not studying; the path to welfare, that is!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Be mindful&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s always the advice given by Jedi &amp; Sith to their apprentices.</p>
<p>&#8220;Be mindful of your feelings, young Skywalker&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Lord Maul, be mindful. Let them make the first move&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Be mindful, Billy.  Truancy; not studying; the path to welfare, that is!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BadaBing</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/06/mindful-students/#comment-34149</link>
		<dc:creator>BadaBing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, those kinniegarden knaps were just the thing. We all had our own wooden pallet and we&#039;d lie down on them side by side for a much needed downtime and wake up (yes, I fell asleep) feeling like a new person. I still take them to this day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, those kinniegarden knaps were just the thing. We all had our own wooden pallet and we&#8217;d lie down on them side by side for a much needed downtime and wake up (yes, I fell asleep) feeling like a new person. I still take them to this day.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/06/mindful-students/#comment-34148</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not bring back the kindergarten nap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not bring back the kindergarten nap?</p>
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