Comments on: Strange case of the missing jacket http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:51:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: Fred Mertz http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33207 Fred Mertz Tue, 08 May 2007 11:31:19 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33207 I think Ms. Gump said it best-"Stupid is as stupid does!!" I think Ms. Gump said it best-”Stupid is as stupid does!!”

]]> By: ster http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33206 ster Tue, 08 May 2007 01:34:17 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33206 I'm sure an eight year old girl would never lie to her Mother out of fear. News flash! there are a lot of crazy parents out there. Thier children are perfect just as they are. Trash a great teachers life over this? enjoy your old fashion stone throwing. ster I’m sure an eight year old girl would never lie to her Mother out of fear. News flash! there are a lot of crazy parents out there. Thier children are perfect just as they are. Trash a great teachers life over this? enjoy your old fashion stone throwing.
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]]> By: Hillsboro http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33205 Hillsboro Tue, 08 May 2007 00:23:30 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33205 The district faithfully followed its own policy and the law in dealing with Ms. Logan. There was no "mock trial." Those words were never uttered by the counselor or any other directly involved school employee, although a counselor was available to work with children who felt uneasy. (A lot of the uneasiness can be traced to indiscreet remarks by parents at the dinner table, in my opinion. 1st graders are typically very resilient and go with the flow.) The district faithfully followed its own policy and the law in dealing with Ms. Logan. There was no “mock trial.” Those words were never uttered by the counselor or any other directly involved school employee, although a counselor was available to work with children who felt uneasy. (A lot of the uneasiness can be traced to indiscreet remarks by parents at the dinner table, in my opinion. 1st graders are typically very resilient and go with the flow.)

]]> By: Cris http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33204 Cris Sat, 05 May 2007 04:23:22 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33204 <a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/metro_west_news/1178252703215400.xml&coll=7&thispage=2" rel="nofollow">Here's </a> what appears to be the follow-up. Lots of 'feelings' and 'healing'. Here’s what appears to be the follow-up. Lots of ‘feelings’ and ‘healing’.

]]> By: Margaret http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33203 Margaret Fri, 04 May 2007 23:04:14 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33203 A followup story today tells of parents angry over lack of proper notification. There are counselors for the children - including a mock trial to help kids understand what their teacher might go through. And talk of new policies and training with regard to lost-and-found items - 'cause without policies and training no one would know that items in the lost-and-found aren't free for the taking. A followup story today tells of parents angry over lack of proper notification. There are counselors for the children – including a mock trial to help kids understand what their teacher might go through. And talk of new policies and training with regard to lost-and-found items – ’cause without policies and training no one would know that items in the lost-and-found aren’t free for the taking.

]]> By: swp http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33202 swp Fri, 04 May 2007 17:12:22 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33202 Gee, sorry I didn't read the article carefully enough. I agree, inexcusable. Gee, sorry I didn’t read the article carefully enough. I agree, inexcusable.

]]> By: Sigivald http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33201 Sigivald Fri, 04 May 2007 17:10:17 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33201 swp: Note that the teacher <I>admitted</i> to taking the jacket from lost-and-found, to sell. That's theft right there, is it not? Lost-and-found boxes are not "take what you want and sell it" boxes. If some other kid took it first and put it in lost-and-found, that doesn't change anything - the teacher still <I>stole</i> it from there to sell it. That she didn't take it directly from where the kid put it is irrelevant to her misbehaviour. The very <I>idea</i> of taking property from the lost-and-found pile* and selling it is disgraceful. * (At least, so quickly. Something that has been in the pile for six months with nobody looking for it is another matter - that's pretty much abandoned. But selling it <I>the next day</i>? Inexcusable.) swp: Note that the teacher admitted to taking the jacket from lost-and-found, to sell.

That’s theft right there, is it not?

Lost-and-found boxes are not “take what you want and sell it” boxes.

If some other kid took it first and put it in lost-and-found, that doesn’t change anything – the teacher still stole it from there to sell it. That she didn’t take it directly from where the kid put it is irrelevant to her misbehaviour.

The very idea of taking property from the lost-and-found pile* and selling it is disgraceful.

* (At least, so quickly. Something that has been in the pile for six months with nobody looking for it is another matter – that’s pretty much abandoned.

But selling it the next day? Inexcusable.)

]]> By: eduranter http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33200 eduranter Fri, 04 May 2007 17:08:58 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33200 swp, She was arrested. I can't imagine the police arresting her if there wasn't serious evidence. If my kid's teacher is under arrest, I really don't think I want her in the classroom. swp,
She was arrested. I can’t imagine the police arresting her if there wasn’t serious evidence. If my kid’s teacher is under arrest, I really don’t think I want her in the classroom.

]]> By: swp http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33199 swp Fri, 04 May 2007 11:30:19 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33199 69K doesn't seem too high for a teacher that has taught for 20 years. I tend to be critical of education, but this seems unfair to the teacher. There's no proof and she's been removed from class. It is offensive to make school a fashion show and schools should not be held liable for kids loosing their 'stuff'. My son had his coat stolen and I went to the kids parents and they gave it back, no big deal. Kids are immature, I suspect another kid actually took the jacket. 69K doesn’t seem too high for a teacher that has taught for 20 years. I tend to be critical of education, but this seems unfair to the teacher. There’s no proof and she’s been removed from class. It is offensive to make school a fashion show and schools should not be held liable for kids loosing their ‘stuff’. My son had his coat stolen and I went to the kids parents and they gave it back, no big deal. Kids are immature, I suspect another kid actually took the jacket.

]]> By: Walter E. Wallis http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/05/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33198 Walter E. Wallis Fri, 04 May 2007 10:32:38 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/05/03/strange-case-of-the-missing-jacket/#comment-33198 I wonder if she was teaching in Palo Alto when my son was in school. We used to buy job lots of second hand coats for him. I wonder if she was teaching in Palo Alto when my son was in school. We used to buy job lots of second hand coats for him.

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