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		<title>By: Ms. Cornelius</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/04/where-to-get-a-good-insult-leviticus/#comment-32813</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, Joanne, you&#039;re right. I personally thought it was hilarious. Perhaps if people went to the original post and read it, they would understand that this was tongue in cheek while also decrying an insensitive-- and nonsensical-- verbal habit of some of our students.

But then I guess there are adults who defend the use of &quot;gay&quot; to indicate displeasure. Oh well-- all fat is the Lord&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Joanne, you&#8217;re right. I personally thought it was hilarious. Perhaps if people went to the original post and read it, they would understand that this was tongue in cheek while also decrying an insensitive&#8211; and nonsensical&#8211; verbal habit of some of our students.</p>
<p>But then I guess there are adults who defend the use of &#8220;gay&#8221; to indicate displeasure. Oh well&#8211; all fat is the Lord&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/04/where-to-get-a-good-insult-leviticus/#comment-32812</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Educat wrote a humorous post complaining about her students&#039; propensity to use &quot;gay&quot; for things that are neither sexual nor cheerful. I&#039;m pretty darned sure she was joking in suggesting slurs from Leviticus might replace &quot;gay.&quot; Homosexuality has nothing to do with the use of &quot;gay&quot; by teenagers, and I&#039;d just as soon not host a debate on whether gays are good, bad or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Educat wrote a humorous post complaining about her students&#8217; propensity to use &#8220;gay&#8221; for things that are neither sexual nor cheerful. I&#8217;m pretty darned sure she was joking in suggesting slurs from Leviticus might replace &#8220;gay.&#8221; Homosexuality has nothing to do with the use of &#8220;gay&#8221; by teenagers, and I&#8217;d just as soon not host a debate on whether gays are good, bad or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: TMAO</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/04/where-to-get-a-good-insult-leviticus/#comment-32811</link>
		<dc:creator>TMAO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry Straus wrote: &quot;As [heterosexual males] get older â€” and become more comfortable with themselves (and become sexually active with girls) they often become more tolerant.&quot;

Although clearly not, as exhibited by the intolerance, bigotry, and 4th-grade style generalizations exhibited on the previous comments.

Unless the problem is lack of the aforementioned sexual activity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Straus wrote: &#8220;As [heterosexual males] get older â€” and become more comfortable with themselves (and become sexually active with girls) they often become more tolerant.&#8221;</p>
<p>Although clearly not, as exhibited by the intolerance, bigotry, and 4th-grade style generalizations exhibited on the previous comments.</p>
<p>Unless the problem is lack of the aforementioned sexual activity?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Strauss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Strauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BadaBing: most heterosexual males will tell you that the homosexual act repulses them....

I&#039;m not sure this makes sense.
I&#039;m a heterosexual male and therefor have no experience with the homosexual act so what is it that is supposed to repulse me?
The sight of it?
Haven&#039;t had that happen either.
The thought of it?
I&#039;ve got other things to think about.

I suppose that if I were forced to watch such an act, it would be unpleasant but so would being forced to watch most of the heterosexual population doing the mating thing.

Any significance to that?
None that I can see.

Male repulsion to homosexuality is often a lame assertion of their machismo. It is something I see every day in my students. The boys are trying to be men and have no idea how or what that means. Attacking homesexuals and homosexuality reassures their insecure selves. As they get older -- and become more comfortable with themselves (and become sexually active with girls) they often become more tolerant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BadaBing: most heterosexual males will tell you that the homosexual act repulses them&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure this makes sense.<br />
I&#8217;m a heterosexual male and therefor have no experience with the homosexual act so what is it that is supposed to repulse me?<br />
The sight of it?<br />
Haven&#8217;t had that happen either.<br />
The thought of it?<br />
I&#8217;ve got other things to think about.</p>
<p>I suppose that if I were forced to watch such an act, it would be unpleasant but so would being forced to watch most of the heterosexual population doing the mating thing.</p>
<p>Any significance to that?<br />
None that I can see.</p>
<p>Male repulsion to homosexuality is often a lame assertion of their machismo. It is something I see every day in my students. The boys are trying to be men and have no idea how or what that means. Attacking homesexuals and homosexuality reassures their insecure selves. As they get older &#8212; and become more comfortable with themselves (and become sexually active with girls) they often become more tolerant.</p>
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		<title>By: Twill00</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twill00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh.  

&quot;...my lifestyle of work, dinner with friends, talking on the phone with my mother, visiting relatives, and reading books...&quot;

Uh, yeah.  Sure, you believed that that was the &quot;lifestyle&quot; he referred to.  After all, that is the only possible thing that the &quot;homosexual lifestyle&quot; might possibly refer to in his statement.

It couldn&#039;t have anything to do with anal sex, frenetic partner-switching or anything like that, it had to have to do with what you do with your mother.

Sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh.  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;my lifestyle of work, dinner with friends, talking on the phone with my mother, visiting relatives, and reading books&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, yeah.  Sure, you believed that that was the &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; he referred to.  After all, that is the only possible thing that the &#8220;homosexual lifestyle&#8221; might possibly refer to in his statement.</p>
<p>It couldn&#8217;t have anything to do with anal sex, frenetic partner-switching or anything like that, it had to have to do with what you do with your mother.</p>
<p>Sure.</p>
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		<title>By: BadaBing</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadaBing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig:

&lt;i&gt;He managed to personally insult large numbers of people heâ€™s never even met based on a single thing they have in common. Thatâ€™s called bigotry.&lt;/i&gt;

Quit with the high drama, will ya? When you consider what the &quot;single thing&quot; they have in common is and the lifestyle and physical act that goes along with it, Mr. Williams is dead-on from a heterosexual male&#039;s point of view. If they&#039;re honest, most heterosexual males will tell you that the homosexual act repulses them. Funny that you don&#039;t seem to be aware of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig:</p>
<p><i>He managed to personally insult large numbers of people heâ€™s never even met based on a single thing they have in common. Thatâ€™s called bigotry.</i></p>
<p>Quit with the high drama, will ya? When you consider what the &#8220;single thing&#8221; they have in common is and the lifestyle and physical act that goes along with it, Mr. Williams is dead-on from a heterosexual male&#8217;s point of view. If they&#8217;re honest, most heterosexual males will tell you that the homosexual act repulses them. Funny that you don&#8217;t seem to be aware of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hateful terminology will go out of use eventually.&lt;/i&gt;

Only to be replaced by other terminology.

My mother is a special education teacher and I can recall when I was younger the advent of alternate terms to &quot;retarded&quot; became popular in education.  So now, instead of kids calling other kids retarded as insults, they call them slow, or LD, or whatever.

I don&#039;t even think this pattern of evolving insults can be changed either, much to the dismay of idealists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hateful terminology will go out of use eventually.</i></p>
<p>Only to be replaced by other terminology.</p>
<p>My mother is a special education teacher and I can recall when I was younger the advent of alternate terms to &#8220;retarded&#8221; became popular in education.  So now, instead of kids calling other kids retarded as insults, they call them slow, or LD, or whatever.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even think this pattern of evolving insults can be changed either, much to the dismay of idealists.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

Plenty of people actually use &quot;white&quot; as an insult as in &quot;acting white&quot;.  I personally use the term jokingly.

Hateful terminology will go out of use eventually.  We don&#039;t need to completely ban every offensive term.  People eventually realize the harm of the words and stop.  Give people some credit for their desire to not hurt others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>Plenty of people actually use &#8220;white&#8221; as an insult as in &#8220;acting white&#8221;.  I personally use the term jokingly.</p>
<p>Hateful terminology will go out of use eventually.  We don&#8217;t need to completely ban every offensive term.  People eventually realize the harm of the words and stop.  Give people some credit for their desire to not hurt others.</p>
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		<title>By: Sigivald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sigivald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes no sense. The kids aren&#039;t using &quot;gay&quot; as an insult because of Leviticus. 

Very few of them will have read it, and many of them won&#039;t even be Christians in any sense but the most nominal.

They&#039;re using the term because homosexuality is unusual and disapproved of by their peer group, for the most part. (And, honestly, disapproved of even if tolerated by probably a significant majority of the population as a whole.)

Homosexuality has been disapproved of (unjustly or not) without help from the Bible, in many, many places. (It was &quot;unmanly&quot; among the Romans, if I recall. The Germanic tribes did not approve, either, even before they were Christianised.)

It seems odd, thus, to bring in &lt;I&gt;utterly irrelevant&lt;/i&gt; laws from Leviticus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes no sense. The kids aren&#8217;t using &#8220;gay&#8221; as an insult because of Leviticus. </p>
<p>Very few of them will have read it, and many of them won&#8217;t even be Christians in any sense but the most nominal.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re using the term because homosexuality is unusual and disapproved of by their peer group, for the most part. (And, honestly, disapproved of even if tolerated by probably a significant majority of the population as a whole.)</p>
<p>Homosexuality has been disapproved of (unjustly or not) without help from the Bible, in many, many places. (It was &#8220;unmanly&#8221; among the Romans, if I recall. The Germanic tribes did not approve, either, even before they were Christianised.)</p>
<p>It seems odd, thus, to bring in <i>utterly irrelevant</i> laws from Leviticus.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myrtle said: &quot;We need a generic insult that doesnâ€™t offend anyone.&quot;

Hmm, what&#039;s a good, general term that anyone and everyone will use with no qualms to express the idea of &quot;bad&quot; or &quot;evil&quot; or &quot;oppressive&quot;...

I know!  &quot;White&quot;!

&quot;White&quot; can be the new &quot;gay&quot;!  &quot;Man, that&#039;s mighty White of you&quot;, &quot;you so White&quot;, &quot;what a white thing to say&quot;...it works on so many levels!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myrtle said: &#8220;We need a generic insult that doesnâ€™t offend anyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm, what&#8217;s a good, general term that anyone and everyone will use with no qualms to express the idea of &#8220;bad&#8221; or &#8220;evil&#8221; or &#8220;oppressive&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I know!  &#8220;White&#8221;!</p>
<p>&#8220;White&#8221; can be the new &#8220;gay&#8221;!  &#8220;Man, that&#8217;s mighty White of you&#8221;, &#8220;you so White&#8221;, &#8220;what a white thing to say&#8221;&#8230;it works on so many levels!</p>
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