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		<title>By: Ragnarok</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/04/teaching-boys-to-be-boys/#comment-32976</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragnarok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lori,

&quot;Ah, yes, SusanS, you know me so wellâ€¦.&quot;

    I think the context makes it quite clear that Susan was using the plural form of &quot;you&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori,</p>
<p>&#8220;Ah, yes, SusanS, you know me so wellâ€¦.&#8221;</p>
<p>    I think the context makes it quite clear that Susan was using the plural form of &#8220;you&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: lori</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/04/teaching-boys-to-be-boys/#comment-32975</link>
		<dc:creator>lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Boys donâ€™t need a manual on how to be boys. They just need you to stop making them feel lousy for being boys.&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, yes, SusanS, you know me so well....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Boys donâ€™t need a manual on how to be boys. They just need you to stop making them feel lousy for being boys.</i></p>
<p>Ah, yes, SusanS, you know me so well&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/04/teaching-boys-to-be-boys/#comment-32974</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two more titles - &quot;What Boys Don&#039;t Want Girls to Know&quot; and the obverse. Make them seem kinda naughty and sell a bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two more titles &#8211; &#8220;What Boys Don&#8217;t Want Girls to Know&#8221; and the obverse. Make them seem kinda naughty and sell a bunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy W</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/04/teaching-boys-to-be-boys/#comment-32973</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why canâ€™t we let kids figure out who they are instead of imposing some canonized view of who they should be or what they should like to do with their free time? Letâ€™s leave the Victorian era sexual stereotypes back where they belong and let kids go out and play.&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s a third option between &quot;imposing some canonized view&quot; and letting kids just go out and play, and that&#039;s giving kids some ideas about what else they could do with their free time. 

My brothers and I (I&#039;m female) built forts for as long as I can remember without instruction and I&#039;m the oldest, but eventually Dad showed us how to make bows and arrows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why canâ€™t we let kids figure out who they are instead of imposing some canonized view of who they should be or what they should like to do with their free time? Letâ€™s leave the Victorian era sexual stereotypes back where they belong and let kids go out and play.</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a third option between &#8220;imposing some canonized view&#8221; and letting kids just go out and play, and that&#8217;s giving kids some ideas about what else they could do with their free time. </p>
<p>My brothers and I (I&#8217;m female) built forts for as long as I can remember without instruction and I&#8217;m the oldest, but eventually Dad showed us how to make bows and arrows.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lori,

Boys don&#039;t need a manual on how to be boys. They just need you to stop making them feel lousy for being boys. They&#039;re not just &quot;people.&quot;  Not in their minds. If a book like this gets them excited, then it&#039;s a good thing.

There&#039;s a lot of political correctness in education today and finding books that motivates some boys to read can be tricky.
My son started out only reading non-fiction. He was fascinated with stories of dinosaurs, battles and ancient history. I was constantly hunting for appropriate books that made him excited to read. Later, he switched to fiction and zipped through many of the writers that boys tend to like, (and some girls.)

There was no &quot;steering&quot; going on. I just got out of his way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori,</p>
<p>Boys don&#8217;t need a manual on how to be boys. They just need you to stop making them feel lousy for being boys. They&#8217;re not just &#8220;people.&#8221;  Not in their minds. If a book like this gets them excited, then it&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of political correctness in education today and finding books that motivates some boys to read can be tricky.<br />
My son started out only reading non-fiction. He was fascinated with stories of dinosaurs, battles and ancient history. I was constantly hunting for appropriate books that made him excited to read. Later, he switched to fiction and zipped through many of the writers that boys tend to like, (and some girls.)</p>
<p>There was no &#8220;steering&#8221; going on. I just got out of his way.</p>
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		<title>By: ricki</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/04/teaching-boys-to-be-boys/#comment-32971</link>
		<dc:creator>ricki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert&#039;s comment on needing to know that they CAN rather than needing to know HOW is part of it. I think we&#039;ve done a lot to squash the sort of &quot;unsupervised play&quot; stuff out of kids - the mooshing around in mud, the building-of-random-things, the making conkers (or elderberry cordial, for that matter).

I didn&#039;t know that you could peel open a maple samara and stick it on your nose to make a &quot;beak&quot; until I saw an older kid do it. I wouldn&#039;t have thought to fit my thumbs over an acorn cap and use it to make a loud whistle unless I had seen my mom do it one day when we were out hiking. Again, it&#039;s back to the cultural transmission thing.

I think there also used to be reprints of &quot;The Boy&#039;s Handy Book&quot; and &quot;The Girl&#039;s Handy Book&quot; out there. (In fact, I may HAVE a copy of &quot;The Girl&#039;s Handy Book&quot; somewhere on my bookshelves...I seem to remember it had instructions on how to build a window seat using crates?)

My suggestion would be to get both the &quot;Dangerous&quot; book and the &quot;Glorious&quot; book. There were some &quot;boy things&quot; I liked doing as a kid, and also some &quot;girl things&quot; I liked doing. (And I grew up perfectly OK. Even after handling tadpoles AND making doll clothes. [just don&#039;t try making doll clothes for the tadpoles.])</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert&#8217;s comment on needing to know that they CAN rather than needing to know HOW is part of it. I think we&#8217;ve done a lot to squash the sort of &#8220;unsupervised play&#8221; stuff out of kids &#8211; the mooshing around in mud, the building-of-random-things, the making conkers (or elderberry cordial, for that matter).</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that you could peel open a maple samara and stick it on your nose to make a &#8220;beak&#8221; until I saw an older kid do it. I wouldn&#8217;t have thought to fit my thumbs over an acorn cap and use it to make a loud whistle unless I had seen my mom do it one day when we were out hiking. Again, it&#8217;s back to the cultural transmission thing.</p>
<p>I think there also used to be reprints of &#8220;The Boy&#8217;s Handy Book&#8221; and &#8220;The Girl&#8217;s Handy Book&#8221; out there. (In fact, I may HAVE a copy of &#8220;The Girl&#8217;s Handy Book&#8221; somewhere on my bookshelves&#8230;I seem to remember it had instructions on how to build a window seat using crates?)</p>
<p>My suggestion would be to get both the &#8220;Dangerous&#8221; book and the &#8220;Glorious&#8221; book. There were some &#8220;boy things&#8221; I liked doing as a kid, and also some &#8220;girl things&#8221; I liked doing. (And I grew up perfectly OK. Even after handling tadpoles AND making doll clothes. [just don't try making doll clothes for the tadpoles.])</p>
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		<title>By: lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book seems (at a very first, very limited glance, admittedly) to have a &quot;what real boys should do&quot; kind of feel to it. I don&#039;t think boys need a manual on how to be a boy any more than girls need one on how to be a girl or men or women need one on how to be men and women. 

Because, really, we&#039;re all just *people*. Why can&#039;t we let kids figure out who they are instead of imposing some canonized view of who they should be or what they should like to do with their free time? Let&#039;s leave the Victorian era sexual stereotypes back where they belong and let kids go out and play.

My neighbor&#039;s son and a friend figured out how to build a clubhouse all on their own. No plans, no diagrams, no black-and-white glossy photos with a paragraph on the back of each one. Just some kids, some wood, a hammer and some nails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book seems (at a very first, very limited glance, admittedly) to have a &#8220;what real boys should do&#8221; kind of feel to it. I don&#8217;t think boys need a manual on how to be a boy any more than girls need one on how to be a girl or men or women need one on how to be men and women. </p>
<p>Because, really, we&#8217;re all just *people*. Why can&#8217;t we let kids figure out who they are instead of imposing some canonized view of who they should be or what they should like to do with their free time? Let&#8217;s leave the Victorian era sexual stereotypes back where they belong and let kids go out and play.</p>
<p>My neighbor&#8217;s son and a friend figured out how to build a clubhouse all on their own. No plans, no diagrams, no black-and-white glossy photos with a paragraph on the back of each one. Just some kids, some wood, a hammer and some nails.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/04/teaching-boys-to-be-boys/#comment-32969</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penguin is planning a girls&#039; book called &quot;The Great Big Glorious Book for Girls.&quot; The story mentions teaching girls to make elderberry cordials and play cat&#039;s cradle, which doesn&#039;t sound as appealing as slingshots and tree forts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penguin is planning a girls&#8217; book called &#8220;The Great Big Glorious Book for Girls.&#8221; The story mentions teaching girls to make elderberry cordials and play cat&#8217;s cradle, which doesn&#8217;t sound as appealing as slingshots and tree forts.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Leonard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but skinning a rabbit? That would indeed be a dangerous concept for young minds these days -- at least, such is the current politically correct wisdom. I&#039;ll bet this book is so reactionary that it actually encourages boys to carry nasty, anti-social items such as pocket knives.

Seriously, it sounds like a winner, and long overdue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but skinning a rabbit? That would indeed be a dangerous concept for young minds these days &#8212; at least, such is the current politically correct wisdom. I&#8217;ll bet this book is so reactionary that it actually encourages boys to carry nasty, anti-social items such as pocket knives.</p>
<p>Seriously, it sounds like a winner, and long overdue.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding whether kids could just figure this stuff out on their own, I think it&#039;s more of a case that they need to know THAT they can build a fort than it is a case of needing to know HOW to do so. I don&#039;t think a lot of kids would even conceive of the idea, until they saw the directions. 

Wayne, did you mean &quot;two-income families&quot;? If so, what does that have to do with cultural transmission? Can a family not have two incomes and quality interactions with their kids at the same time? 

More importantly: Will there be a sequel for girls? Not that I wouldn&#039;t mind using this book with my daughters, but I&#039;d be curious to know what a &quot;Dangerous Book for Girls&quot; would have in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding whether kids could just figure this stuff out on their own, I think it&#8217;s more of a case that they need to know THAT they can build a fort than it is a case of needing to know HOW to do so. I don&#8217;t think a lot of kids would even conceive of the idea, until they saw the directions. </p>
<p>Wayne, did you mean &#8220;two-income families&#8221;? If so, what does that have to do with cultural transmission? Can a family not have two incomes and quality interactions with their kids at the same time? </p>
<p>More importantly: Will there be a sequel for girls? Not that I wouldn&#8217;t mind using this book with my daughters, but I&#8217;d be curious to know what a &#8220;Dangerous Book for Girls&#8221; would have in it.</p>
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