Comments on: Parents face curfew fines http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/03/parents-face-curfew-fines/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:51:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ian Lewis http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/03/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31995 Ian Lewis Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:29:10 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/03/08/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31995 The fines will only work if they get compliant parents. Sooner or later they will ticket a parent that has $$ and that parent will sue on 1st and 4th Amendment grounds. This has gone to numerous District and Appellate Courts, with a 50/50 split on the constitutionality on curfews. Unfoutunately, the taxpayers will have to foot the bill for the court costs because the Supreme Court declined to hear the one case that appealed to them. The fines will only work if they get compliant parents. Sooner or later they will ticket a parent that has $$ and that parent will sue on 1st and 4th Amendment grounds. This has gone to numerous District and Appellate Courts, with a 50/50 split on the constitutionality on curfews. Unfoutunately, the taxpayers will have to foot the bill for the court costs because the Supreme Court declined to hear the one case that appealed to them.

]]> By: Candi Cabaniss http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/03/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31994 Candi Cabaniss Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:30:49 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/03/08/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31994 I lived in Austin for several years. They have had such a curfew for a long time. Even a daytime curfew, if a child is out on a school day they can be picked up. I had a coworker whose son was caught breaking the curfew the third time. Kid had to do community service for being out at 2 am. Granted the judges are reasonable, such as group trips, or if the parents knew where the kids were or with another adult or if the parent knew where the kid was say walking home from a friend's house. I lived in Austin for several years. They have had such a curfew for a long time. Even a daytime curfew, if a child is out on a school day they can be picked up. I had a coworker whose son was caught breaking the curfew the third time. Kid had to do community service for being out at 2 am. Granted the judges are reasonable, such as group trips, or if the parents knew where the kids were or with another adult or if the parent knew where the kid was say walking home from a friend’s house.

]]> By: Walter E. Wallis http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/03/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31993 Walter E. Wallis Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:01:30 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/03/08/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31993 A curfew makes breaking it more exciting. A curfew makes breaking it more exciting.

]]> By: Bill Leonard http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/03/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31992 Bill Leonard Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:00:46 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/03/08/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31992 I agree with Wayne; a little history might help a lot. Otherwise, my gut reaction is, this is another case of legislators with a solution who looking for a problem -- and I am certain there are many, many meaningful problems faced by Oregon that might more usefully command the legislature's attention. I agree with Wayne; a little history might help a lot. Otherwise, my gut reaction is, this is another case of legislators with a solution who looking for a problem — and I am certain there are many, many meaningful problems faced by Oregon that might more usefully command the legislature’s attention.

]]> By: Joanne http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/03/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31991 Joanne Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:10:20 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/03/08/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31991 In Portland, the <a href="http://www.ktvz.com/story.cfm?nav=oregon&storyID=18706" rel="nofollow">curfew</a> for children under 14 is 9:15 pm on school nights and 10:15 pm on weekends. For those 14 to 18, it's 10:15 on school nights and midnight on weekends. In Portland, the curfew for children under 14 is 9:15 pm on school nights and 10:15 pm on weekends. For those 14 to 18, it’s 10:15 on school nights and midnight on weekends.

]]> By: wayne martin http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/03/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31990 wayne martin Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:50:01 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/03/08/parents-face-curfew-fines/#comment-31990 http://www.lakeoswegoreview.com/news/story.php?story_id=116666019937267100 The current ordinance, which is based on a state law, forbids children younger than 14 to be on the streets between 9:15 p.m. and 6 a.m. Those 14 to 18 can be out until 10:15 p.m. Sunday through Thursday and until midnight on Friday and Saturday during the school year. Last year, police cited 19 children for violating curfew. Portland Curfew Sweeps: http://www.portlandonline.com/Police/pbnotify.cfm?action=ViewContent&content_id=111 Curfew Violations: 47 Walk and Talks: 58 Traffic Citations: 13 Traffic Warnings: 5 Hot Cover Calls: 4 It would be nice for a little history as to why Oregon needs a State-wide child curfew law? Were kids (upto 18) running amuk? Certainly seems awfully restrictive. http://www.lakeoswegoreview.com/news/story.php?story_id=116666019937267100

The current ordinance, which is based on a state law,
forbids children younger than 14 to be on the streets between
9:15 p.m. and 6 a.m. Those 14 to 18 can be out until 10:15 p.m.
Sunday through Thursday and until midnight on Friday and
Saturday during the school year.

Last year, police cited 19 children for violating curfew.

Portland Curfew Sweeps:
http://www.portlandonline.com/Police/pbnotify.cfm?action=ViewContent&content_id=111

Curfew Violations: 47
Walk and Talks: 58
Traffic Citations: 13
Traffic Warnings: 5
Hot Cover Calls: 4

It would be nice for a little history as to why Oregon needs a State-wide child curfew law? Were kids (upto 18) running amuk? Certainly seems awfully restrictive.

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