Comments on: Rejecting success http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/rejecting-success/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:37:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: Twill00 http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/rejecting-success/#comment-31601 Twill00 Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:25:15 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/02/24/rejecting-success/#comment-31601 The next time that people complain about Bush supposedly ignoring science in public policy, here's the answer. Sigh. Goose, Gander, sauce. The next time that people complain about Bush supposedly ignoring science in public policy, here’s the answer.

Sigh. Goose, Gander, sauce.

]]> By: NDC http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/rejecting-success/#comment-31600 NDC Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:00:29 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/02/24/rejecting-success/#comment-31600 Project Follow Through is getting a little flurry of media and blog attention, so maybe finally, DI will get the implementation it has deserved. I have no real insight into how and why people were happy to ignore it. It seems like there would have been enough people with no investment in a particular method who just wanted good teaching and results. But I do suspect that until NCLB people could pretend they were offering something instead of high test scores. They could kid themselves that while DI got results on tests, constructivist methods were more natural and deep. I don't accept that it's true, but I suspect that's what they're ed. professors told them. Project Follow Through is getting a little flurry of media and blog attention, so maybe finally, DI will get the implementation it has deserved.

I have no real insight into how and why people were happy to ignore it. It seems like there would have been enough people with no investment in a particular method who just wanted good teaching and results.

But I do suspect that until NCLB people could pretend they were offering something instead of high test scores. They could kid themselves that while DI got results on tests, constructivist methods were more natural and deep. I don’t accept that it’s true, but I suspect that’s what they’re ed. professors told them.

]]> By: linda seebach http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/rejecting-success/#comment-31599 linda seebach Sun, 25 Feb 2007 01:46:33 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/02/24/rejecting-success/#comment-31599 Thanks for the link, Joanne, but for anyone else who happens to see the comments, go read zigsite.com RIGHT NOW because the chapter on how DI was disappeared will be available for only one more week. Thanks for the link, Joanne, but for anyone else who happens to see the comments, go read zigsite.com RIGHT NOW because the chapter on how DI was disappeared will be available for only one more week.

]]> By: Larry Strauss http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/rejecting-success/#comment-31598 Larry Strauss Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:32:17 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/02/24/rejecting-success/#comment-31598 Thanks. Thanks.

]]> By: Joanne http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/rejecting-success/#comment-31597 Joanne Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:06:12 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/02/24/rejecting-success/#comment-31597 Direct Instruction was a direct contradiction to the prevailing theories about how children learn -- and it had been developed by someone without a doctorate in education. The study evaluator declared that Project Follow Through had not been designed to find the most effective teaching model after all. It vanished into the memory hole. Zig Engelmann's book, which is available on zigsite.com, gives his take on what happened. Direct Instruction was a direct contradiction to the prevailing theories about how children learn — and it had been developed by someone without a doctorate in education. The study evaluator declared that Project Follow Through had not been designed to find the most effective teaching model after all. It vanished into the memory hole. Zig Engelmann’s book, which is available on zigsite.com, gives his take on what happened.

]]> By: Larry Strauss http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/rejecting-success/#comment-31596 Larry Strauss Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:59:07 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/02/24/rejecting-success/#comment-31596 Many of the models that proved ineffective continued to receive funding. DI remained a pariah. Any explanation for why DI "remained a pariah"? Politics? Corruption on the part of those profiting from the other models and the school distric? I apologize if you have already answered these questions previously; just tell me which previous post to read. Thank you. Many of the models that proved ineffective continued to receive funding. DI remained a pariah.

Any explanation for why DI “remained a pariah”?
Politics?
Corruption on the part of those profiting from the other models and the school distric?

I apologize if you have already answered these questions previously; just tell me which previous post to read.

Thank you.

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