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	<title>Comments on: Clean hands</title>
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	<description>Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs</description>
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		<title>By: Indigo Warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/clean-hands/#comment-31631</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Itâ€™s the tendency I really believe lies at the heart of the Progressives that says that the average man is way too dumb to figure out what he should do, and sorely needs us Enlightened Ones to determine his course.&lt;/I&gt;

Or the national toilet and airbag laws under the Clinton administration?

And are the Enlightened Ones really all that smart?  They have no problem showing their disdain (and envy) for truly smart people who can make a living manipulaing the physical world rather than the private lives of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Itâ€™s the tendency I really believe lies at the heart of the Progressives that says that the average man is way too dumb to figure out what he should do, and sorely needs us Enlightened Ones to determine his course.</i></p>
<p>Or the national toilet and airbag laws under the Clinton administration?</p>
<p>And are the Enlightened Ones really all that smart?  They have no problem showing their disdain (and envy) for truly smart people who can make a living manipulaing the physical world rather than the private lives of others.</p>
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		<title>By: ZZMike</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/clean-hands/#comment-31630</link>
		<dc:creator>ZZMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Niel Boortz&#039;s new book (&quot;Somebody&#039;s Gotta Say It&quot;) he says that &quot;schools are not public schools, they&#039;re government schools&quot;).  (He makes a good living exaggerating and extrapolating.)  It&#039;s not an &quot;either/or&quot;, but it is true that the schools are arms of government.  In Texas, for example, the governor wanted to have a law passed - without debate, of course - that would require mandatory (redundance for emphasis) vaccinations of 11-year-old girls against an STD. 

Sally Lieber&#039;s newly-revised bill would make it a crime to hit your young child with your fist, to burn him, or to throw him - among other things.  I had no idea these things were not already unlawful. 

I agree with wayne martin that this is a problem that needs addressing.  But where do we draw the line between educating the public and micro-managing them with hordes of new laws?  Almost every restroom in a restaurant or bookstore near where I live has a sign reading &quot;employees must wash hands&quot;.  (I&#039;m tempted to add a note &quot;The rest of you slobs can skip it&quot;.)  Sould we have yet another law for this?  Another gross example of micro-managing (other than Lieber&#039;s bill) is the movement in California to require people to  buy energy-saving light bulbs.  Why do they think we&#039;re so stupid as to not realize that the new bulbs save a lot of money - and time we would have spent replacing the old ones?  It&#039;s the tendency I really believe lies at the heart of the Progressives that says that the average man is way too dumb to figure out what he should do, and sorely needs us Enlightened Ones to determine his course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Niel Boortz&#8217;s new book (&#8220;Somebody&#8217;s Gotta Say It&#8221;) he says that &#8220;schools are not public schools, they&#8217;re government schools&#8221;).  (He makes a good living exaggerating and extrapolating.)  It&#8217;s not an &#8220;either/or&#8221;, but it is true that the schools are arms of government.  In Texas, for example, the governor wanted to have a law passed &#8211; without debate, of course &#8211; that would require mandatory (redundance for emphasis) vaccinations of 11-year-old girls against an STD. </p>
<p>Sally Lieber&#8217;s newly-revised bill would make it a crime to hit your young child with your fist, to burn him, or to throw him &#8211; among other things.  I had no idea these things were not already unlawful. </p>
<p>I agree with wayne martin that this is a problem that needs addressing.  But where do we draw the line between educating the public and micro-managing them with hordes of new laws?  Almost every restroom in a restaurant or bookstore near where I live has a sign reading &#8220;employees must wash hands&#8221;.  (I&#8217;m tempted to add a note &#8220;The rest of you slobs can skip it&#8221;.)  Sould we have yet another law for this?  Another gross example of micro-managing (other than Lieber&#8217;s bill) is the movement in California to require people to  buy energy-saving light bulbs.  Why do they think we&#8217;re so stupid as to not realize that the new bulbs save a lot of money &#8211; and time we would have spent replacing the old ones?  It&#8217;s the tendency I really believe lies at the heart of the Progressives that says that the average man is way too dumb to figure out what he should do, and sorely needs us Enlightened Ones to determine his course.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/clean-hands/#comment-31629</link>
		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sally Lieber&#039;s bill on spanking in California (SB 755) does still effectively criminalize spanking of children of any age with any object whatsoever.  She has by no means dropped the bill by any stretch of imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally Lieber&#8217;s bill on spanking in California (SB 755) does still effectively criminalize spanking of children of any age with any object whatsoever.  She has by no means dropped the bill by any stretch of imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: triticale</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/clean-hands/#comment-31628</link>
		<dc:creator>triticale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be simpler to require that they handle unsanitary matters only with the left hand and eat only with the right hand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be simpler to require that they handle unsanitary matters only with the left hand and eat only with the right hand?</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/clean-hands/#comment-31627</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, something&#039;s gotta give. With iPods no one needs to read anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, something&#8217;s gotta give. With iPods no one needs to read anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne martin</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/clean-hands/#comment-31626</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A local supermarket has only recently put a stand outside the store near the queued shopping carts which contains antiseptic wipes for disinfecting the handles of the carts.  Saw an article recently that claimed that computer keyboards were far more â€œgermyâ€ than exposed surfaces in public bathrooms.  The article caused me to start â€œWindexingâ€ my Laptop more frequently than Iâ€™ve done in the past.

Disinfectant Wipes Safe for Computer Keyboards:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5364714

There ought to be a law that before a legislator can introduce a law that restricts our liberties a reasonable set of studies be conducted which demonstrate that a problem exists, and the proposed solution will actually solve the problem at hand.

Everybody knows that schools and kindergartens are germ breeding grounds.  Yet, people send their sick kids to school anyway.  While itâ€™s always beneficial to wash oneâ€™s hands frequently, if the desks and keyboards are not being cleaned too, then the germs are still in the classroom.  

How big is this problem?  How many kids are getting sick in schools?  Does Chicago show a spike in the incidence of communicable diseases?  How available are disposable antiseptic wipes in schools?  Since the taxpayers are feeding millions of â€œat-riskâ€ kids at school, should it extend its reach in the home and provide free disinfectant hand wipes for these kids at home?

While there may be a problem here, as usual the Main Stream Media (MSM) hasnâ€™t done much of a job digging into this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A local supermarket has only recently put a stand outside the store near the queued shopping carts which contains antiseptic wipes for disinfecting the handles of the carts.  Saw an article recently that claimed that computer keyboards were far more â€œgermyâ€ than exposed surfaces in public bathrooms.  The article caused me to start â€œWindexingâ€ my Laptop more frequently than Iâ€™ve done in the past.</p>
<p>Disinfectant Wipes Safe for Computer Keyboards:<br />
<a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5364714" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5364714</a></p>
<p>There ought to be a law that before a legislator can introduce a law that restricts our liberties a reasonable set of studies be conducted which demonstrate that a problem exists, and the proposed solution will actually solve the problem at hand.</p>
<p>Everybody knows that schools and kindergartens are germ breeding grounds.  Yet, people send their sick kids to school anyway.  While itâ€™s always beneficial to wash oneâ€™s hands frequently, if the desks and keyboards are not being cleaned too, then the germs are still in the classroom.  </p>
<p>How big is this problem?  How many kids are getting sick in schools?  Does Chicago show a spike in the incidence of communicable diseases?  How available are disposable antiseptic wipes in schools?  Since the taxpayers are feeding millions of â€œat-riskâ€ kids at school, should it extend its reach in the home and provide free disinfectant hand wipes for these kids at home?</p>
<p>While there may be a problem here, as usual the Main Stream Media (MSM) hasnâ€™t done much of a job digging into this story.</p>
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		<title>By: Hube</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/clean-hands/#comment-31625</link>
		<dc:creator>Hube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh, what &lt;i&gt;else&lt;/i&gt; do people want schools to do? Why not just require parents to sign over parental rights to teachers and leave it at that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh, what <i>else</i> do people want schools to do? Why not just require parents to sign over parental rights to teachers and leave it at that?</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/02/clean-hands/#comment-31624</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, of course, brush and floss after?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, of course, brush and floss after?</p>
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