Comments on: Merit pay boosts scores http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/ Thinking and Linking by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:51:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: bd http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30442 bd Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:07:45 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/01/07/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30442 > > > Good teachers always give it their all when teaching. > > and should be amply rewarded for doing so. > Why? > If money doesn’t make any difference, why should we pay them “amply”? Then maybe we can pay them less and save some money, it doesn't make any difference to their teaching anyway. > > > Good teachers always give it their all when teaching.

> > and should be amply rewarded for doing so.

> Why?

> If money doesn’t make any difference, why should we pay them “amply”?

Then maybe we can pay them less and save some money, it doesn’t make any difference to their teaching anyway.

]]> By: allen http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30441 allen Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:38:12 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/01/07/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30441 I believe that's referred too as fraud. I think the a couple of felony convictions, complete jacket-covered heads and some real prison time ought to have an ameliorative effect on the problem. I can just see it now.... "What are you in for?" "Carjacking and trafficking in stolen goods. You?" "Cheating on AYP tests." "Lotta money in that?" "You can't imagine" I believe that’s referred too as fraud. I think the a couple of felony convictions, complete jacket-covered heads and some real prison time ought to have an ameliorative effect on the problem. I can just see it now….

“What are you in for?”
“Carjacking and trafficking in stolen goods. You?”
“Cheating on AYP tests.”
“Lotta money in that?”
“You can’t imagine”

]]> By: Prof210 http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30440 Prof210 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 12:26:50 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/01/07/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30440 I write from New Jersey where, in addition to investigating obvious cheating by teachers and administrators in Camden, the state is questioning state test performance in dozens more schools and districts. Let's be a little careful in equating great teaching and student scores on state-developed tests. I write from New Jersey where, in addition to investigating obvious cheating by teachers and administrators in Camden, the state is questioning state test performance in dozens more schools and districts. Let’s be a little careful in equating great teaching and student scores on state-developed tests.

]]> By: Andy Freeman http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30439 Andy Freeman Mon, 08 Jan 2007 06:29:22 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/01/07/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30439 > > Good teachers always give it their all when teaching. > and should be amply rewarded for doing so. Why? If money doesn't make any difference, why should we pay them "amply"? Any significant increases in teacher pay must be accomplied by replacing the current teachers. Why? Because either they weren't giving their all or their all wasn't adequate and giving them more money won't produce results. Either way, they should be replaced. > > Good teachers always give it their all when teaching.

> and should be amply rewarded for doing so.

Why?

If money doesn’t make any difference, why should we pay them “amply”?

Any significant increases in teacher pay must be accomplied by replacing the current teachers. Why? Because either they weren’t giving their all or their all wasn’t adequate and giving them more money won’t produce results. Either way, they should be replaced.

]]> By: Twill00 http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30438 Twill00 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:35:43 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/01/07/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30438 Just what I would want my union to do. Turn down free money because they don't know exactly what I would have to do to earn it. Yeah, that's right. Just what I would want my union to do. Turn down free money because they don’t know exactly what I would have to do to earn it. Yeah, that’s right.

]]> By: Catch Thirty Thr33 http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30437 Catch Thirty Thr33 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 04:37:40 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/01/07/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30437 If it wasn't about the money and ALL about the kids, why aren't teachers teaching for free? If it wasn’t about the money and ALL about the kids, why aren’t teachers teaching for free?

]]> By: Chris http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30436 Chris Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:05:53 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/01/07/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30436 BettyB wrote: > Good teachers always give it their all when teaching. and should be amply rewarded for doing so. BettyB wrote:
> Good teachers always give it their all when teaching.

and should be amply rewarded for doing so.

]]> By: allen http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30435 allen Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:49:32 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/01/07/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30435 <b>BettyB wrote:</b> <i>Good teachers always give it their all when teaching. </i> What about bad teachers? Teachers in between? It's a measure of how far from reality the public education system has strayed that the notion of pay for performance is so sincerely disputed. In any other <i>profession</i> I can think of the linkage between performance and reward is simply assumed and in the public education system it's the opposite that's, if not assumed, at least forcefully promoted. BettyB wrote:

Good teachers always give it their all when teaching.

What about bad teachers? Teachers in between?

It’s a measure of how far from reality the public education system has strayed that the notion of pay for performance is so sincerely disputed. In any other profession I can think of the linkage between performance and reward is simply assumed and in the public education system it’s the opposite that’s, if not assumed, at least forcefully promoted.

]]> By: BettyB http://www.joannejacobs.com/2007/01/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30434 BettyB Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:53:01 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2007/01/07/merit-pay-boosts-scores/#comment-30434 I have found that merit pay does not make a difference. Good teachers always give it their all when teaching. It isn't about the money. It's about the kids. I have found that merit pay does not make a difference. Good teachers always give it their all when teaching. It isn’t about the money. It’s about the kids.

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