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To suppress racial fights, Murrieta Valley school district in southern California planned to ban meanness and cliques.

A California school district is considering adopting a new policy that could cause students to be expelled for “rejecting” each other, for sharing “unpleasant stories” about each other — even if true — or for associating with like-minded peers in groups if others feel “left out.”

However, protests persuaded the board to revise the proposal to avoid a constitutional challenge.

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  1. Ok would they have to disband the football team? Not everyone makes the team, at least in my day they didn’t. How about student council? Would I have been in trouble because when I was in school I tended to hang around with people who shared my interests? How do you define rejection? I did not hang around with the druggies when I was in high school, I even openly avoided them. I guess that made me a bad person in the eyes of this group.

    One final question comes to mind — WHAT SORT OF MORON COMES UP WITH IDEAS LIKE THIS?

  2. I wish there were more details about the fighting and which groups are fighting. Unless all groups are fighting.

    Anyway, this is what you get when you continually harp on all the things that make us different and use skin color as the one qualifier: Balkinization.

  3. John from OK says:

    I think this is a great idea. All students should grow up equal and be raised as equals. If there is one exception I would allow, it would be for a select group of students who understand equality, inclusion, sensitivity, etc., and could serve as a vandguard, leading the other students who still need help understanding these concepts. We could call this elite group the “Party”.

    Now to where should we “expell” the uncooperative students?

  4. So when are we going to wake up to the fact that leaving the schools in the hands of a group largely drawn from the lowest quartile of the college bound population is going to lead to frequent repetition of this sort of idiocy?

  5. Richard Brandshaft says:

    1) When we try to blame this sort of thing on the details of current politics, we should remember Mark Twain: “God made idiots for practice, then He made school boards.” This sort of thing has been going on a long time.

    2) When conservatives gripe about lawyers, and how inconvenient the Constitution and due process is, non-conservatives should remember who defends us at times like this. (Conservatives should remember too, but they will never get it.)

  6. Richard,

    OK. I give: Who does defend us at times like this?

  7. Yeah, on the surface, banning cliques and “meanness” sounds like a great idea.

    But what happens when the kids get out in the real world, where there are cliques and mean people and they don’t know how to deal? I would argue that there’s value in letting the kids treat each other the way they would naturally (I would draw the line at physical violence and would do something if a kid seemed to be always the whipping-boy). Because, as many have observed, adult life is just like high school but with more money and uglier clothes.

    I grew up in an very kind, very meek family and still have a hard time relating to and coping with people who are aggressive or mean. Sometimes I wonder if I would be better able to deal with “mean people” if my family life had been less harmonious and peaceful.

    besides, banning “meanness” will be about as effective at eliminating it as banning alcohol was during Prohibition.

  8. “leaving the schools in the hands of a group largely drawn from the lowest quartile of the college bound population is going to lead to frequent repetition of this sort of idiocy?” Fixing this quality problem is a matter of life and death for our society…but how to do it? Higher salaries alone won’t do it…people with spirit and self-respect rarely want to work for a soul-deadening bureaucracy. I think the only hope lies in the expansion of charter school and voucher programs. The problem certainly wouldn’t be solved or even seriously addressed by John Kerry, who in educational matters is the captive of the gods of things-as-they-are.

  9. It seems that the system is composed of hungry vampires, feeding on the life’s blood of children. When the victimized children start acting up, more vampirish politically correct solutions are applied. Soon we’ll have special schools for the un-PC, nicknamed “Siberia.”

    A massive application of intelligence is necessary to solve the problem. Bypassing the corrupt educational establishment by any means necessary may save some of the children.

    David Foster is on the right track. The corrupt relationship of the educational establishment, unions, and politicians leaves no choice but to secede from the system, if possible. The system is broken. It won’t be fixed. More money can’t possibly fix it and may make it worse. Like giving more money to organized crime, or to political parties.

  10. Banning gossip and social groups? You gotta be kidding. You’d have to make it against the rules for two people to even talk to each other in order to enforce that. I think there’s something in the First Amendment about freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.

    Sure, kids are mean to each other. They form cabals and gossip, etc. It’s normal. You have to learn to deal with it in order to survive in the adult world. People who grow up ignorant of it are naive, gullible fools being thrown into the pit of snakes once they leave the protected school.


  11. The aim is good, but these thing always seem to go over the top into some sort of absolute.
    Back in the days when men were men and women were women and they liked it that way, they would have tried a “reasonable effort,” (and probably made someone mad).

  12. Nich from Penna. says:

    First, an apology for the late dated comment…I don’t always get into my computer on a daily or semi-daily basis. And now to the issue at hand…is it my imagination, or do most of the really strange ideas ALWAYS seem to come from California? Inquiring minds wanna’ know.