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In Indianapolis, a four-year-old boy showed his Head Start friends a baggie of “flour.” It turned out to be crack cocaine worth $7,500 to $10,000, say police. They’re still looking for his parents, who have criminal histories.

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  1. Although I’m for legalizing that stuff, I have to suggest that at least one of these parents should be locked up for a good long time for being stupid (assuming the bag was from their home). Yes, stupid for leaving dangerous stuff lying around. Not for having that stuff.

    Loaded guns, drugs, rat poison, pornographic depictions of gay princes, whatever: it should be kept from the kids. It doesn’t matter if it’s a legal or an illegal item, keep the dangerous stuff out of children’s reach.

  2. D. Cooper says:

    I guess that parent wouldn’t be a candidtae for home schooling! And oh yeah legalized crack … that’s a good idea too.

  3. It’s no different from any other cocaine. Find some evidence and prove me wrong. Not anecdotal, but chemical evidence.

    Cocaine was legal in this country for many years. There weren’t wild killings over territory, gun-wielding international criminals with ties to assassinations of judges in Columbia, incredibly rich drug cartels, or crack whores before cocaine was made illegal. But at least we now can tell our children that they shouldn’t do what millions of us adults do. Why not? Because it’s illegal, that’s why.

    Very successful drug war we’re running. We took a drug that grows like coffee beans and made it worth its weight in gold. And we saved all those addicts from… their savings.

  4. D. Cooper says:

    I guess you were thinging that I thought crack was bad and cocaine was ok. Beep beep beep , not exactly.

    Cocaine is God’s way of telling you that you’re making too much money. And I’m not debating you on the merits of drugs and alcohol. I already know you’re a big fan of the two. And by the way … regarding addicts and their savings … remember; A fool and his money are soon parted.

  5. speedwell says:

    “And I’m not debating you on the merits of drugs and alcohol. I already know you’re a big fan of the two.”

    Snarky, snarky, snarky.

    Advocating people’s freedom is not the same as being in favor of bad decisions, any more than advocating free firearms ownership is the same as being in favor of murder, or than giving your son and daughter separate bedrooms is the same as favoring discrimination by sex. lol…

  6. I’m all in favor of fools and their money being separated, I just want to have the free market rather than the government take care of the pricing. I guess I’m just a silly old capitalist that way.

    And I don’t use the stuff (though I did consume a six pack over the past month).

  7. Scary the things “parents” do.

  8. D. Cooper says:

    Jon… the free market is taking care of the pricing now …

  9. There is no free market for illegal products. It’s a black market. And it’s a tax burden to pay for the $30,000 a year each to send these people to institutions of “lower learning”. So we have a policy of lawlessness, fecklessness, stupidity, and lies that undermine confidence in our government.

    Legalizing drugs won’t be a cake walk in the park or some other badly-turned phrase. But I am running out of reasons to even half-heartedly support the current system.

  10. D. Cooper says:

    Jon, the ‘black market’ is the free market for illegal goods. Supply and demand…. works everywhere … create demand, control supply … yadda yadda yadda … sounds like the free market to me.

  11. But what entity controls the illegality of the supply? Is this a Baptists and Bootleggers kind of arrangement?

  12. D. Cooper says:

    You see, the drugs are illegal … so the supply is also. Get it. So I guess its controlled by those idiots who passed those stupid laws making those drugs a no no. What were they thinking?

    The real problem is not the illegality of the supply, but why one is needed in the first place. I guess it numbs those who need numbing.

  13. Of course the need for drugs is a problem. People have hard lives, things they want to celebrate, desires to not think the way they do when sober, a need to relax, a need to not be relaxed, and a host of other needs. Drugs help with those needs. Not always. Not perfectly. Not always safely. And they aren’t always the ideal way to deal with a need. What I don’t get is why some ways to meet those needs have mandatory jail terms while others get federal subsidies.

    I don’t think the benefits of keeping illegal drugs illegal outweigh the costs. As a parent, I hope the thing keeping my daughter off cocaine isn’t just that it’s illegal. I’m sure that’s not the case, since I know she could find it if she wanted it.

  14. D. Cooper says:

    Ah yes, alcohol and drugs, elixirs of the ghetto. I would applaud your concerns regarding your daughter, but staying off cocain ought to be a no brainer.

    We differ, but Good luck!

  15. I have too many successful family members and acquaintences who drink far too much alcohol for me to consider it a ghetto elixir. (Their lives would probably be better without it, but it’s not keeping them from contributing to society.) Alcohol is consumed in massive quantities all over the socio-economic spectrum.

    The massive numbers of functioning alcoholics and drug addicts can be used to make various claims. It tells me that most people can handle moderate quantities of substances without having addiction (however defined) be a problem to themselves and others.

    The parents in the article cited are not an example of moderate users who are in control of their desires. But their real crime is their irresponsibility, not their addictions.

  16. D. Cooper says:

    I’d not agrue regarding the widespread use.. of alcohol and drugs, but would still suggest that in numbs the pain in the ghetto. (and that term as used here is not necessarily restricted to large inner cities).

    As far as irresponsible vs addictions … that’s a chicken vs egg argument. It’s diffficult to be responsible when ‘shit faced’, and many irresponsible people abuse drugs. Many addictions are a result of escape from conditions, which of course in turn worsens the condition and the spiral continues. Not an easy solution and to be sure economics is only part of the equation.

  17. I know I come across as flippant on the issue, but I know it won’t be a utopia if drugs are legalized: the social issues will remain and the screwups will still be screwups. But I do think that the current system is so bad (worthless might be a better word) that we should seriously consider legalization.

  18. JimInNOVA says:

    And if they’re legalized, we can tax them. You think cigarette taxes are big bucks, wait till you see what an opiate tax does.

  19. D. Cooper says:

    How would that work … are you saying you want to give our government more of our money to spend?

    Maybe they could give it to the poor folk who could in turn spend it on cigarettes, alcohol, and crack.

    Or, build bridges and roadways.

    Moot point … ain’t happenin’ anywho.

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