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Insufficiently Sensitive — Wed, 03 Mar 2004 23:51:04 +0000

Joe apparently thinks EM publishers are immune to my nifty lawsuit, claiming “No damages, because there is no duty owed by the texbook purveyors, except that the textbook exists and is delivered.”

There certainly IS a duty owed by those purveyors, and that is to ensure that the textbood functions as advertised. Failure to do so is fraud.

If other texts or methods can be shown to be superior, or heaven forbid actually successful at imparting mathematical knowledge instead of psychobabble, then the advertising claims of the EM salesmen (which can hardly be anything but claims of superiority for their product) are worthless or misleading and have cost the consumers real value.

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By: Richard Brandshaft

Richard Brandshaft — Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:00:48 +0000

Yet again, I saw the term “fuzzy math” misused in commentary about math teaching. Am I quibbling when I point that out? That isn’t a rhetorical question; “I know that (or can do that) so anyone with half a brain should know that (or be able to do that)” is a frequent comment. It’s easy to call it unjustified when it refers to something you can’t do; when it refers to a something you know, it’s harder to judge — which doesn’t stop some people.

Speaking of different methods, Richard Feynman was once on a California curriculum commission. He said counting on your figures was an acceptable way to do some problem. Others in the meeting protested. He asked when the next meeting was. Someone told him. He asked, “In how many days is that?” People counted on their fingers.